[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

Runa Bhattacharjee run...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #20 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 (In reply to comment #2)
  Confirmed. Tested on http://crossbrowsertesting.com with iPad 2 (iOS 5.0,
  5.1) and ipad3 (iOS 6.0).
 
 Oops! forgot to mention that, Since, this works fine on my system (Linux:
 Firefox, Chrome). It looks bug in iOS browser's rendering.

Hi Karthik,

 Can you help here to verify two test cases

1. Installing Firefox on iPas and checking whether this works?

2. Checking whether Raavi fonts giving expected results on iPad2?  i.e. Opening
any text editor and applying Raavi fonts and checking whether this reported bug
is reproducible?

Or someone else may be.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #21 from Kartik Mistry kartik.mis...@gmail.com ---
I don't have iPad handy at moment. But, I'll ask around and see what we can do
best as quickly as possible.

Thanks.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #22 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl ---
(In reply to comment #20)
 1. Installing Firefox on iPad and checking whether this works?

Is it even possible to run Firefox on iOS devices? I just checked the appstore,
and didn't find one. There is a Google Chrome browser that can be installed,
but not Firefox.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #23 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
Siebrand you are right. Firefox not available for iOS. Now only expecting 

1. Checking whether Raavi fonts giving expected results on iPad2?  i.e. Opening
any text editor and applying Raavi fonts and checking whether this reported bug
is reproducible?

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #24 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl ---
(In reply to comment #23)
 Checking whether Raavi fonts giving expected results on iPad2?  i.e.
 Opening any text editor and applying Raavi fonts and checking whether this
 reported bug is reproducible?

Not sure how to do this. http://iosfonts.com/ lists the fonts available on iOS
6.x. Raavi is not in that.

https://sites.google.com/site/totalfontgeek/installing-new-fonts/ios describes
that one needs to jump through a lot of hoops to add fonts to an iOS device,
including jailbreaking it. Is this what is requested?

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #25 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
(In reply to comment #24)
 (In reply to comment #23)
  Checking whether Raavi fonts giving expected results on iPad2?  i.e.
  Opening any text editor and applying Raavi fonts and checking whether this
  reported bug is reproducible?
 
 Not sure how to do this. http://iosfonts.com/ lists the fonts available on
 iOS
 6.x. Raavi is not in that.
 
 https://sites.google.com/site/totalfontgeek/installing-new-fonts/ios
 describes
 that one needs to jump through a lot of hoops to add fonts to an iOS device,
 including jailbreaking it. Is this what is requested?

I use Punjabi KBS editor which is an application available from Apple Store ,
and I suppose it uses Raavi font for inputting punjabi Gurmukhi text because I
often write with this on IPad and it does not give any errors with Siharis when
text is copied from it and posted on pa.wikipedia site , but viewed in system
font only. Otherwise also with this application installed when I view
pa.wikipedia.org site in system font option of ULS , NO ERRORS ARE THERE in
punjabi Gurmukhi text. Application is given in this URL PunjabiKeyboards by
eqqon
https://itunes.apple.com/in/app/punjabikeyboards/id549678055?mt=8 this does not
require any jail break to install fonts included in it on IPad

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #26 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl ---
(In reply to comment #25)

 I use Punjabi KBS editor which is an application available from Apple Store ,
 and I suppose it uses Raavi font for inputting punjabi Gurmukhi text because
 I
 often write with this on IPad and it does not give any errors with Siharis
 when
 text is copied from it and posted on pa.wikipedia site , but viewed in system
 font only. Otherwise also with this application installed when I view
 pa.wikipedia.org site in system font option of ULS , NO ERRORS ARE THERE in
 punjabi Gurmukhi text. Application is given in this URL PunjabiKeyboards by
 eqqon
 https://itunes.apple.com/in/app/punjabikeyboards/id549678055?mt=8 this does
 not
 require any jail break to install fonts included in it on IPad

That's great to know; developers can add fonts as part of applications, but as
far as I know, those fonts will not be able to leave the scope of that
application. The app is free, so if we get some sample text that needs to be
copied into that app so we can get a rendering baseline by making a screenshot
of that, I guess we fulfilled the requested input :).

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #27 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
While summarizing:

1. From images seen from bug report i am strongly thinking that Open type fonts
are not supported on iOS. and that is why it is giving wrong rendering.


2. Bug reporter says Raavi is an open type font which is working fine on iOS.

I am expecting help from WMF is too confirm whether Web Open Type fonts works
on iOS or not.

Option 1. In your testing environment add Raavi fonts as a web fonts and test
on iOS. if it shows improved results than Lohit. (Please note Raavi is not
under any opensource license.)

I hope so with that we can come to some conclusion on this bug.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-07-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #19 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
(In reply to comment #18)
 Please verify font installed on hardware Apple IPad with operating system iOS
 version 6.1.3. has AAT tables or not. and update this bug.
 
 It is possible to have single font both AAT and Open Type support.

Apple devices do not show font files folder and where these are located, at
least a common person who is not IT expert cannot locate it.To talk of whether
these have AAT tables or not is further a matter of investigation by IT
experts.at least I cannot answer this if answer is expected only from me. To
the fact that Raavi is open Type font I have already replied and given its
source in Microsoft URL at comment 17.Experts may further correspond with APPLE
or MICROSOFT to get required information about Gurmukhi UNICODE FONTS instlled
on APPLE DEVICES or anyone knowledgable about systems on APPLE devices may
reply to questions raised above.

What I am seeking is support from everyone in comment no 14 that till problems
of lohit font namely problem with display of nine on window systems and problem
of siharis on APPLE DEVICES are solved, system font should be made default font
, keeping others in option to be selected at punjabi wiki by WMF like being
done in Hindi and Marathi wiki and also assigning a priority to this action
rather than keeping low priority for this reported bug.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #10 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
Created attachment 12640
  -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=12640action=edit
Same siharis (short I ) problem with lohit devnagri as in lohit Panjabi font

In response to comment additional attachment added for font lohit devanagri

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #11 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 (In reply to comment #5)
  The same problem occurs for Hindi wikipedia also. So problem is nt only with
  lohit Panjabi but lohit devnagri as well.
 
 Can you provide image of this?
Please see attachment 12640. Thanks for your asking.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #12 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
Created attachment 12641
  -- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=12641action=edit
Same Siharis(short I ) problem in lohit Marathi

In response to comment 2nd attachment in lohit Marathi , it is likewise in
devnagri font.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #13 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
In image  attachment 12640 check Select font for हिन्दी in this line Cons
Na and Halant does not forming Half Na

This is not font problem. Browser does not support Open type fonts. Due to it
complex conjuncts are not forming and reordering of first I  matra not
working properly.

Don't know present state but i think Safari does not support Open Type fonts.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #14 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---
(In reply to comment #13)
 
 
 This is not font problem. Browser does not support Open type fonts. Due to it
 complex conjuncts are not forming and reordering of first I  matra not
 working properly.
 
 Don't know present state but i think Safari does not support Open Type fonts.

1.But Raavi is open type Gurmukhi font , when we select system font then Raavi
font gets selected and it is well supported on safari browser and display
appears alright for all Panjabi in Gurmukhi script. 
2.Problem of siharis appears with lohit fonts in google chrome browser as well,
but it does not appear in system fonts. 
(Reply to comment 8 by  Siebrand assigning low priority )
Temporarily to solve problem of new users , system font should be made default
font by wikimedia foundation in http://pa.wikipedia.org , so that new users and
/ or first time users may not have to use gear tool for language and font
selection to have correct display of digit nine and correct display of siharis
created by lohit font on windows PC system and safari/chrome browser apple
systems respectively, otherwise high priority should be assigned to solve these
lohit font problems.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
Are you sure Raavi is open type? most of the apple local fonts have AAT support
(Apply Advance typography) that is why they work properly. 

Can you email me Raavi fonts, then i can tell you whether it has OT or AAT
support?  pravin DOT d DOT s AT gmail DOT com

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #16 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---

wg(In reply to comment #15)
 Are you sure Raavi is open type? most of the apple local fonts have AAT
 support
 (Apply Advance typography) that is why they work properly. 
 
 Can you email me Raavi fonts, then i can tell you whether it has OT or AAT
 support?  pravin DOT d DOT s AT gmail DOT com


Please refer to Microsoft site URL
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/family.aspx?FID=254 , it says Raavi
is open type font.
About other questions of OT or AAT support you may get expert answers from
Microsoft site or experts.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #17 from Guglani guglani...@yahoo.co.in ---

wg(In reply to comment #15)
 Are you sure Raavi is open type? most of the apple local fonts have AAT
 support
 (Apply Advance typography) that is why they work properly. 
 
 Can you email me Raavi fonts, then i can tell you whether it has OT or AAT
 support?  pravin DOT d DOT s AT gmail DOT com


Please refer to Microsoft site URL
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/family.aspx?FID=254 , it says Raavi
is open type font.
About other questions of OT or AAT support you may get expert answers from
Microsoft site or experts.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

--- Comment #18 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
Please verify font installed on hardware Apple IPad with operating system iOS
version 6.1.3. has AAT tables or not. and update this bug.

It is possible to have single font both AAT and Open Type support.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||upstream
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #7 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl ---
Marked upstream.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|Unprioritized   |Low

--- Comment #8 from Siebrand s.mazel...@xs4all.nl ---
Have to mark this as low, as we cannot influence resolution directly. If there
is another Language Summit where Wikimedia and Red Hat are participating, we
will take this up with Praveen Satpute.

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||pravin@gmail.com

--- Comment #9 from Pravin Satpute pravin@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 The same problem occurs for Hindi wikipedia also. So problem is nt only with
 lohit Panjabi but lohit devnagri as well.

Can you provide image of this?

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[Bug 50032] Lohit Panjabi and Lohit Devanagari fonts display error of Siharis (vowel short I) on Apple devices

2013-06-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50032

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Lohit Panjabi font display  |Lohit Panjabi and Lohit
   |error of siharis (vowel |Devanagari fonts display
   |short I)|error of Siharis (vowel
   ||short I) on Apple devices

--- Comment #6 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Thanks for clarifying!

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