[Bug 52520] VisualEditor: Create a design guideline to minimize clicks and key presses

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52520

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #5 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Again: This won't be handled in Bugzilla, however pointing to a better place
where to discuss would be very good.  Playing the I know it's the wrong place
but still I want to discuss it here card isn't much better either though. :)

Please don't reopen as a sign of disagreement. Thanks.

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[Bug 52520] VisualEditor: Create a design guideline to minimize clicks and key presses

2013-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52520

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INVALID
Summary|create a design guideline   |VisualEditor: Create a
   |to minimize clicks and key  |design guideline to
   |presses |minimize clicks and key
   ||presses

--- Comment #3 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org ---
Of course, this is already our intention. There is nothing to create.

Bugzilla is not really the right place to suggest user experience improvements
like this - though walk-through data like you've given is hugely valuable, and
if you have more I would love for you to share it.

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[Bug 52520] VisualEditor: Create a design guideline to minimize clicks and key presses

2013-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52520

rupert.thur...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|INVALID |---

--- Comment #4 from rupert.thur...@gmail.com ---
james, let me reopen this one please. there is a big difference between it is
our intention (whoever our is) and a crystal clear guideline having as
primary target:
* minimize clicks and key presses
* response time 3 sec
this would make it so much easier for new developers as well. and so much
easier for testers to point out that something is against the goal. 

as i tried to point out above with examples, people were and still are allowed
to increase key presses and mouse-clicks considerable compared to the existing
solution. i tried to look for design documents or mail references on some tech
list to find a justification for this, but could not find one. 

you as a software developer surely know that nothing is more expensive than
fixing a design bug. and nothing is more expensive than finding a bug late.
just to take an arbitrary url to support this:
http://blog.bootstraptoday.com/2011/12/25/early-detection-of-bugs-can-save-up-to-22-billion-yearly/
 

so, please do not play the a good thing but not the right place card. which
then ends up nowhere. you can close the ticket if you either create this
guideline, or successfully have a (public verifyable) decision in whatever
place you consider right for a decision like this.

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