[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2014-02-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52973

Jean-Fred  changed:

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2014-02-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52973

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2014-02-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52973

Steven Walling  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Steven Walling  ---
Just checking on this again...

Jean-Fred asked about this again on the Wikitech Ambassadors list, and I
answered him with
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2014-February/000580.html

TL;DR: the extension, which has done away with the Special page approach, is
probably even less appropriate for Commons now, because it focuses almost
exclusively on editing pages. We may want to resolve this as unfixable, and
instead open up a new bug in GuidedTour to create a custom onboarding process
for Commons, to teach people how to upload, about copyright/free licenses, etc.

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-09-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52973

Steven Walling  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Steven Walling  ---
(In reply to comment #4)
> GettingStarted currently works using category-based tasks.  The three used on
> English Wikipedia are copy-editing, clarification, and adding wikilinks.  

Yes, we'd need to pick categories. 

> If we looked at enabling it on Commons,
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Backlog would be a starting point
> in
> selecting one or more tasks.

That might be one place, but to be honest, we picked the three categories to be
sub-types of one overarching goal: give first time Wikipedia editors a very
easy article to edit, which we know needs help. 

If we're going to create a new user onboarding process for Commons, we should
ask ourselves: what is the easiest, most rewarding, and most helpful thing to
do is for a new Commons user?

I'd say that rather than encourage people to pick a backlog task as their first
Commons action, we should encourage them to learn how to upload files. Fixing
issues in the Commons backlog is really kind of an advanced activity, and
everyone who participates in Commons should know how to upload things.

Also, asking users to do one thing is less intimidating than three choices.
We're actually testing a new version of GettingStarted,[1] based on this
principle. 

I'd suggest that we try to start by creating a simple guided tour explaining
uploads. Then we can create a Commons-specific landing page post-registration,
that starts off this tour. 

What do folks think? I'm adding Fabrice, since he's starting up the new
Multimedia team which has related priorities. 

1. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Onboarding_new_Wikipedians#Proposed

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
GettingStarted currently works using category-based tasks.  The three used on
English Wikipedia are copy-editing, clarification, and adding wikilinks.  

If we looked at enabling it on Commons,
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Backlog would be a starting point in
selecting one or more tasks.

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Sam Reed (reedy)  ---
Steven, what's your opinion on doing this? Is it feasible/sensible/whatever?

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-08-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52973

Andre Klapper  changed:

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Monomium  ---
The idea would be to replace the old landing page that died recently. (See bug
52373)

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[Bug 52973] Install GettingStarted on Commons

2013-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dereckson  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Dereckson  ---
Sure. Please first discuss the matter on Wikimedia Commons. Such requests
should be made by the community.

The proposals section of the village pump seems a good place to start:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Proposals

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