[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME --- Comment #19 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- (In reply to Andyrom75 from comment #0) Is it possible in it:voy to change the wikitravel credit from regular link into plain text? As an example I mention: https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Milano Page now says: Questo articolo รจ parzialmente basato sul lavoro pubblicato con licenza CC BY-SA 3.0 su altri siti web. Maggiori dettagli e la lista completa dei contributori possono essere trovati nella cronologia associata. with cronologia linking to https://it.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Milanoaction=history Closing as WORKSFORME. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||aklapper-moreinfo --- Comment #15 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- The bottom text is defined in https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Creditssource-creditsaction=edit which currently says on English Wikivoyage: This article is partly based on [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike 3.0 Licensed] work from other websites. Details of contributors can be found in the [http://en.wikivoyage.org$5 article history]. Is that sufficient to close this ticket as WORKSFORME? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #16 from Andyrom75 andyro...@hotmail.com --- A WMF legal must approve that wording in order to close the ticket. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #17 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Andyrom: Won't happen if I get comment 13 correctly. My question probably is rather: Why not do what en.wv already does? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #18 from Andyrom75 andyro...@hotmail.com --- Andre: Not sure to get your point. Comment 13 is related to a google rank issue. While the change of the footer may (I hope not) have an impact on the CC-BY license term. Please rephrase your statement in case I've misunderstood it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #12 from Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com --- We need a legal opinion before deciding whether WONTFIX is appropriate as, if this can be fixed, it needs to be fixed. Anything which causes a search engine to mistakenly flag the entire site as duplicate content is a serious bug which is harming the project. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Version|unspecified |master Blocks||52688 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|High|Low --- Comment #13 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Carl: Is there any proof that this issue really influences/blocks bug 52688? As written in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Lounge#Google_PageRank_issues , we'd urge you to carefully consider any changes you make, on this issue or any other. I don't think that justifies high priority on this bug report, but in the end it would be the (legal) responsibility of a person willing to merge a potential patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #14 from Carl Austin Bennett carlb...@hotmail.com --- We do know this link to a competing site is spammed onto nearly every page. We do know we are now having PageRank issues. I'd suspect that's as clear as this is going to get, given that search engine operators are keeping the algorithms proprietary secrets in order to make any manipulation of results within the algorithm difficult to prove or disprove. We have no idea whether nofollow will be respected by whatever code at Google is arbitrarily labelling entire sites as duplicate content and no means to force Google to do so. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added CC||federicol...@tiscali.it, ||lvi...@wikimedia.org Blocks|52688 | Depends on||41983 Summary|Change link into plain text |Unlink credits URLs to ||Wikitravel, leave only as ||plain text --- Comment #6 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- The links currently look like: a class=external rel=nofollow href=http://wikitravel.org/it/Milano;Milano/a They already have nofollow (bug 41983), so we currently have no reason to believe this request blocks bug 52688. Given the closure of bug 41983, this part of it could be considered a WONTFIX. The legal question here whether a bare URL which is not a link is enough, on the web, as attribution: Luis? (Feel free to close this bug if you think the reasons above make it not worth investigating this non-standard attribution method.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #7 from Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org --- I pinged Luis last month, but haven't heard anything back. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #8 from Luis Villa lvi...@wikimedia.org --- We left a statement on WV addressing this issue: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Lounge#Google_PageRank_issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #9 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- Permalink: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikivoyage/Loungediff=5958505oldid=5890064 Without a legal opinion this can't proceed, so that response equals WONTFIX. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 peih...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||peih...@hotmail.com --- Comment #10 from peih...@hotmail.com --- Why is a legal opinion needed? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 53942] Unlink credits URLs to Wikitravel, leave only as plain text
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53942 --- Comment #11 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #10) Why is a legal opinion needed? Because, as the name of the extension adding those links (CreditSource) says, the link to the original (place of the) work is used for attribution of the authors under CC-BY-SA license. The WMF is surely not going to remove this without approval by their legal department. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
