[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #20 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org --- Change 112025 merged by jenkins-bot: Vector: Restore page-fade.png as fallback background-image for IE 6-9 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112025 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Vector background gradient |[Regression] Vector header |is slightly misaligned |gradient inconsistent in ||IE6-IE9 (background is ||solid, but tabs still fade ||to white) --- Comment #7 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com --- Rephrasing bug to be slightly more generic in nature. We don't need to restore the PNG per se, just make the design look consistent. Right now the main background no longer fades to white on top (because we fallback to solid grey now in absent of CSS3 support), but the tabs still use the PNG fallback. If we let those fallback in a similar manner it should no longer look broken to the user. Current: http://i.imgur.com/x1nv6GT.png -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #8 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- What Krinkle said. Falling back to a solid colour is not a bad thing it actually also saves an unnecessary HTTP request. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #9 from Isarra zhoris...@gmail.com --- The tabs work just fine with the IE filters. It's only the top that doesn't because it needs to line up properly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #10 from Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl --- In other words, break the Vector look for IE 6-9 completely? Sorry, not acceptable. It is one thing if there are visual discrepancies because older browser cannot be made to support newer features. But *this* change is *easily* implemented for older browsers. Using the IE filter for the tabs is also a bad idea; it will make the text forcibly pixelated because it disables any font smoothing/cleartype for any text rendered on top of it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #12 from Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl --- Such degraded appearance is not acceptable when it is avoidable. I like the new technique, I really do. I just do not believe that it should be implemented at the cost of a considerable user base that do not support it. It is not an 'additional' request; compared to the old method, you still save a lot of requests from newer browsers, only IE 6-9 (and very old other like Firefox 3.5) will still request the image. Also, some gadgets (OK, mine) rely on the image being present. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #13 from Isarra zhoris...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #10) Using the IE filter for the tabs is also a bad idea; it will make the text forcibly pixelated because it disables any font smoothing/cleartype for any text rendered on top of it. Are you sure about this? I notice no difference in IE8, at least... On the other hand IE (and windows in general) already has such poor general font-handling that I'm not sure I could notice such a change, because basically I'm looking at it and it all looks terrible. Er. I don't know. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #14 from Isarra zhoris...@gmail.com --- Oh, actually, I do see it in IE7. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #11 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- Edokter what's broken? It still works right it just has a degraded appearance? Unless I'm misunderstanding... As I said before this does introduce an additional HTTP request. So although it is easy to do I'm simply asking whether we should... is an additional HTTP request acceptable for a cosmetic fade in effect? What does the IE6 user gain? I agree the filter is a bad idea. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #15 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- I repeat in a different form. What value does the fade in effect give to the experience of an IE6 user. Why should I care? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #16 from Isarra zhoris...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #15) I repeat in a different form. What value does the fade in effect give to the experience of an IE6 user. Why should I care? What value does the fade, or, for that matter, any other visual skin style, give to the experience of any users? Why do we even have skins? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #17 from Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl --- (In reply to comment #15) I repeat in a different form. What value does the fade in effect give to the experience of an IE6 user. Why should I care? The fact that you are even asking this is indication enough that you should not care at all and step away from this discussion. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC|jrob...@wikimedia.org | --- Comment #18 from Jon jrob...@wikimedia.org --- I'm sorry you feel this way. I care about unnecessary HTTP requests on older browsers but you obviously don't. You're right this conversation is becoming tedious so I will. Someone added me so I assumed my opinion was useful but never mind I obviously assumed wrong. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 60943] [Regression] Vector header gradient inconsistent in IE6-IE9 (background is solid, but tabs still fade to white)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60943 --- Comment #19 from Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl --- Maybe I came off to blunt. I'm going to reiterate my points: * Inconsistent presentation between browsers looks unprofessional * There is a really easy fix, so there is no need for inconsistency * Said fix is very easy to remove once no longer needed * Even with the png fallback, you still save over 85% of http requests * No maintenance is required as the Vector skin has been stable for 7 years * Using an IE filter introduces more bad side effects -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
