[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66537

--- Comment #11 from Peter Krautzberger peter.krautzber...@mathjax.org ---
Just FYI, MathJax-node can now produce speech-strings (using ChromeVox or
MathSpeak rules). This way, both the MathML and the image rendering can become
accessible to generic screenreaders (not just MathML-enabled ones).

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 164736 merged by Physikerwelt:
Improve the way mathematical formulas are exposed to screen readers.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/164736

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66537

physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

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 Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |ASSIGNED

--- Comment #7 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
I'll deploy it to the preview server.

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66537

--- Comment #8 from Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr ---
(In reply to physikerwelt from comment #7)
 I'll deploy it to the preview server.

What is the URL of the preview server and can you tell me when it's live?

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
I have it deployed to
http://math-preview.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
The MathML element reads now like
dtMathML/dt
ddspanspan class=mwe-math-mathml-inline style=display: none;math
xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
  mrow class=MJX-TeXAtom-ORD
mstyle displaystyle=true
  miE/mi
  mo=/mo
  mim/mi
  msup
mic/mi
mrow class=MJX-TeXAtom-ORD
  mn2/mn
/mrow
  /msup
/mstyle
  /mrow
/math/spanimg class=mwe-math-fallback-svg-inline style=display: none;
vertical-align: -0.167ex; margin-left: 0ex; margin-right: 0ex; margin: 1px
0px;height: 2.167ex; width: 9ex;
src=/w/index.php?title=Special:MathShowImageamp;hash=826676a6a5ad24552f0d5af1593434ccamp;mode=5
aria-hidden=true
img class=mwe-math-fallback-png-inline
src=/w/index.php?title=Special:MathShowImageamp;hash=826676a6a5ad24552f0d5af1593434ccamp;mode=0
aria-hidden=true

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr ---
Thanks, actually I think it's already in
http://deployment.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Fourier_transform

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr ---
I wonder whether we want to try something like

https://github.com/Khan/KaTeX/issues/38#issuecomment-55802898

instead of the current display: none; on the math element. That's similar
to what Chris Fleizach suggested to me by mail in the past. That would give a
chance to tools based on the native WebKit accessibility tree (e.g. VoiceOver)
to read the math. And the aria-hidden on the SVG fallback will still be
important for DOM-based tools, I guess.

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 164736 had a related patch set uploaded by Frédéric Wang:
Improve the way mathematical formulas are exposed to screen readers.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/164736

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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 Status|NEW |PATCH_TO_REVIEW

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr changed:

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   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
   ||org/show_bug.cgi?id=70206

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-06-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr changed:

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 Blocks||65341

--- Comment #3 from Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr ---
(In reply to physikerwelt from comment #2)
 But we should ensure that MathML is rendered in Production on Gecko for a
 large number of visitors in all Languages, before using it as default.

I'm not sure how Gecko's use affects other rendering engines. The idea here is
just to have an option for non-Gecko engines to display MathML instead of the
fallback when MW_MATH_MATHML is enabled (whether it is the default or chosed by
registered users).

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Frédéric Wang fred.w...@free.fr ---
... and of course there is also ChromeVox :-) I think it uses the DOM too but
as for MathPlayer I don't know whether or not it will be able to read
display=none MathML.

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[Bug 66537] The MW_MATH_MATHML mode should expose the MathML to accessible tools

2014-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de changed:

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   Target Milestone|--- |Future release

--- Comment #2 from physikerwelt phy...@ckurs.de ---
Yes. That's very important.
But we should ensure that MathML is rendered in Production on Gecko for a large
number of visitors in all Languages, before using it as default.

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