[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150512: WikiBase Repo tests failing with UsageException

2016-11-21 Thread Nikerabbit
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Based on additional debugging:

$description: You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action. (You do not have sufficient permissions)
$errorCode: permissiondenied
$httpRespCode: 0
$extradata:
array(1) {
  ["messages"]=>
  array(2) {
["_element"]=>
string(7) "message"
[0]=>
array(4) {
  ["name"]=>
  string(29) "wikibase-api-permissiondenied"
  ["parameters"]=>
  array(1) {
["_element"]=>
string(9) "parameter"
  }
  ["html"]=>
  string(64) "You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action."
  ["_BC_subelements"]=>
  array(1) {
[0]=>
string(4) "html"
  }
}
  }
}

Basically this attempt provided no more info either. Please add debugging to Wikibase repo. I am not able to do it myself. For example in repo/includes/Api/ModifyEntity.php

288 // At this point only change/edit rights should be checked
289 $status = $this->checkPermissions( $entity, $user );
290 
291 if ( !$status->isOK() ) {
292 // Dump info from status
293 $this->errorReporter->dieError( 'You do not have sufficient permissions', 'permissiondenied' );
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150512: WikiBase Repo tests failing with UsageException

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 321607 restored by Nikerabbit:
Test for T150512

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150512: WikiBase Repo tests failing with UsageException

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Change 322832 had a related patch set uploaded (by Nikerabbit):
[DNM] Test for T150512

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150512: WikiBase Repo tests failing with UsageException

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Change 321607 abandoned by Nikerabbit:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150512: WikiBase Repo tests failing with UsageException

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Change 321608 abandoned by Nikerabbit:
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T125434: Research on right to left languages layout

2016-11-21 Thread Ladsgroup
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In T125434#2812307, @Huji wrote:
While you are at it, can you change the description for https://fa.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:AboutTopic?entityid=Q44075 such that Einstein is described as an all around "great" dude, not "gread" dude?!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T150877: Unit conversion does not create psn:P2043 for Q531

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150877: Unit conversion does not create psn:P2043 for Q531

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Change 322817 had a related patch set uploaded (by Smalyshev):
Add normalized values even if the value was encountered before.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T130440: Make external prefixes list configurable

2016-11-21 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T150877: Unit conversion does not create psn:P2043 for Q531

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151269: Add English names for languages which don't yet have one

2016-11-21 Thread Nikki
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TASK DESCRIPTIONThere are a number of languages which currently don't display an English name when used on Wikidata, e.g. many of the examples on this page.

Could the following English names be added?


abe: "Western Abenaki"
ady-cyrl: "Adyghe (Cyrillic script)"
aeb-arab: "Tunisian Arabic (Arabic script)"
aeb-latn: "Tunisian Arabic (Latin script)"
azb: "South Azerbaijani"
bxr: "Buryat"
dty: "Doteli"
ett: "Etruscan"
fkv: "Kven"
lbe: "Lak"
kbd-cyrl: "Kabardian (Cyrillic script)"
ko-kp: "Korean (North Korea)"
koy: "Koyukon"
ku-arab: "Kurdish (Arabic script)"
lld: "Ladin"
mo: "Moldovan"
nl-informal: "Dutch (informal address)"
nod: "Northern Thai"
otk: "Old Turkish"
roa-tara: "Tarantino"
rwr: "Marwari (India)"
shi-latn: "Tachelhit (Latin script)"
shi-tfng: "Tachelhit (Cyrillic script)"
sje: "Pite Sami"
tzl: "Talossan"
zh-mo: "Chinese (Macau)"
zh-my: "Chinese (Malaysia)"


The special code "mis" is also missing an English name. http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=mis calls it "Uncoded languages" but perhaps something like "other language" or "unsupported language" would be better for the way it's used in Wikidata.

Also, while I'm requesting updates, I think the following three should be changed:


bbc-latn: Change "Batak Toba" to "Batak Toba (Latin script)"
gan-hans: Change "Simplified Gan script" to "Gan (Simplified)"
gan-hant: Change "Traditional Gan script" to "Gan (Traditional)"


"Batak Toba" is currently used as the name for both bbc and bbc-latn so they aren't distinguishable. All other -latn codes include "(Latin script)" in the name.

For Gan, the current names sound really odd (the phrasing "... script" is used for script names, not languages). We normally put script information in brackets after the language name, so that's what I've suggested here. It would also match the way cjy-hans/cjy-hant are named in this file.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151269EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NikkiCc: Aklapper, revi, Nikki, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150737: Error for the property math formula in some languages

2016-11-21 Thread Nikki
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I'm also seeing a similar error at the bottom of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_PhysicsTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150737EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Physikerwelt, NikkiCc: Nikki, hoo, GWicke, mobrovac, Physikerwelt, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Debenben, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Prod, aude, fredw, Pkra, scfc, Mbch331, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151186: Add monolingual language code fr-ca

2016-11-21 Thread Fralambert
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@VIGNERON For Wikidata, I am not sure there is much difference between fr-ca and fr.except in the vernacular names of plants of animals, and the title of translated books and movies We have some difference in the administrative level, but in Wikidata (municipalité - commune) these type of thing are generally different two items. For fr-qc, it's probably totally useless if we add fr-ca (It's mostly a different name of the same variety).

Fr-ch will probabbly usefull for the name of plants in French used in Switzerland via https://www.infoflora.ch/fr/ For fr-be and fr-us, I have no opinion on the subject, but the best is pobably find a database who use them first.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151186EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: FralambertCc: VIGNERON, Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, Fralambert, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151167: [Bug] SPARQL2 template leads to long loading time on SPARQL example page

2016-11-21 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T125434: Research on right to left languages layout

2016-11-21 Thread Huji
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While you are at it, can you change the description for https://fa.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:AboutTopic?entityid=Q44075 such that Einstein is described as an all around "great" dude, not "gread" dude?!TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125434EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lucie, HujiCc: Huji, Ladsgroup, Lucie, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, D3r1ck01, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, Shizhao, Arrbee, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130440: Make external prefixes list configurable

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 322731 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add ability to introduce extra prefixes

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Re: [Wikidata] Data import hub, data preperation instructions and import workflow for muggles

2016-11-21 Thread Navino Evans
I've just added some more to the page in the previously 'coming soon' Self
import

section,
as it seemed like this is actually the place where QuickStatements and
mix'n'match should come in.
I've tried to keep the details out, and just give a guide to choosing which
tool/approach to use for a particular situation. The mechanics of using the
tools etc should all be on other pages I presume.

Cheers,

Nav


On 21 November 2016 at 16:24, john cummings 
wrote:

> Hi Magnus
>
> I've avoided mentioning those for now as I know you are working on new
> tools, also I'm not very good at using them so wouldn't write good
> instructions :) I hope that once this is somewhere 'proper' that others
> with more knowledge can add this information in.
>
> My main idea with this is to break up the steps so people can collaborate
> on importing datasets and also learn skills along the workflow over time
> rather than having to learn everything in one go.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
> On 21 November 2016 at 17:11, Magnus Manske 
> wrote:
>
>> There are other options to consider:
>> * Curated import/sync via mix'n'match
>> * Batch-based import via QuickStatements (also see rewrite plans at
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/quick_statements2 )
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:11 PM john cummings 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>>
>>> Myself and Navino Evans have been working on a bare bone as possible
>>> workflow and instructions for making importing data into Wikidata available
>>> to muggles like me. We have written instructions up to the point where
>>> people would make a request on the 'bot requests' page to import the data
>>> into Wikidata.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please take a look and share your thoughts
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Dataimporthub
>>>
>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/wikidataimport_guide
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T130440: Make external prefixes list configurable

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130440: Make external prefixes list configurable

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 322731 had a related patch set uploaded (by Smalyshev):
Add ability to introduce extra prefixes

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T125434: Research on right to left languages layout

2016-11-21 Thread Lucie
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Wow, that's weird, it's coming from the getLanguageCode() call on a site object. And the same item works here: https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espesyal:AboutTopic/Q15905 Might be worth opening an investigation ticket for this to not lose track of it. 
Same for the number localization. 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150737: Error for the property math formula in some languages

2016-11-21 Thread hoo
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In T150737#2810225, @Physikerwelt wrote:
@hoo do you have access to the log files?


Yes I do, here is the relevant part:

2016-11-21 09:28:32 [WDK@QApAMFEAAELyJIMAAACC] mw1246 wikidatawiki 1.29.0-wmf.3 exception ERROR: [WDK@QApAMFEAAELyJIMAAACC] /wiki/Special:MathStatus   MWException from line 104 of /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRestbaseInterface.php: TeX input is invalid. {"exception_id":"WDK@QApAMFEAAELyJIMAAACC"}
[Exception MWException] (/srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRestbaseInterface.php:104) TeX input is invalid.
  #0 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRestbaseInterface.php(395): MathRestbaseInterface->calculateHash()
  #1 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRestbaseInterface.php(95): MathRestbaseInterface->getContentRequest(string)
  #2 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRestbaseInterface.php(224): MathRestbaseInterface->getContent(string)
  #3 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathRenderer.php(657): MathRestbaseInterface->getSvg()
  #4 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathMathML.php(357): MathRenderer->getSvg()
  #5 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathMathML.php(398): MathMathML->correctSvgStyle(NULL)
  #6 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/MathMathML.php(466): MathMathML->getFallbackImage()
  #7 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/SpecialMathStatus.php(71): MathMathML->getHtmlOutput()
  #8 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/SpecialMathStatus.php(52): SpecialMathStatus->testSpecialCaseText()
  #9 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/extensions/Math/SpecialMathStatus.php(42): SpecialMathStatus->runMathMLTest(string)
  #10 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(522): SpecialMathStatus->execute(NULL)
  #11 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(577): SpecialPage->run(NULL)
  #12 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/includes/MediaWiki.php(283): SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Title, RequestContext)
  #13 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/includes/MediaWiki.php(851): MediaWiki->performRequest()
  #14 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/includes/MediaWiki.php(512): MediaWiki->main()
  #15 /srv/mediawiki/php-1.29.0-wmf.3/index.php(43): MediaWiki->run()
  #16 /srv/mediawiki/w/index.php(3): include(string)
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151234: Observe the change of clicks of "Create Article" with button on bottom

2016-11-21 Thread Lucie
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TASK DESCRIPTIONSince the button was now moved to the bottom of the page, we should probably actually observe how and if it changes something in the clicks and evaluate that. 
Therefore we need the information on:


time when it is deployed to the Wikipedias so we can measure the change appropiatly
we expect a increase or decrease of clicks (and what we hope for)
better stats on if article were created after the button click and their quality
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138717: Render math values properly

2016-11-21 Thread hoo
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In T138717#2811406, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
Does anyone of you know what we need to do to fix this?


The  tag needs to be preprocessed if outputted by Lua. The math formatter can hardly do that: Preprocessing depends on the concrete Parser instance.

Also we run into problems here because we probably don't want to pollute our wikitext output with that.

In theory we could special case this either on the PHP side or in Lua and run the wikitext through Parser::preprocess or frame:preprocess respectively. For that we probably want to have another callback on the data type definition that allows us to determine whether the outputted wikitext needs preprocessing or not (that's also quite ugly?).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138717EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: hooCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Physikerwelt, Aklapper, Zppix, hoo, Lucie, Debenben, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Prod, aude, fredw, Pkra, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, scfc, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T144584: [feature request] Add Special:GoToLinkedPageElseGoToItem

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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I am going to mark this as resolved because as Thiemo says this is the goal of the ArticlePlaceholder and it works where it is deployed already with Special:AboutTopic.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144584EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: thiemowmde, Lucie, TerraCodes, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Karima, D3r1ck01, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, TheDJ, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138717: Render math values properly

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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Does anyone of you know what we need to do to fix this?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138717EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Physikerwelt, Aklapper, Zppix, hoo, Lucie, Debenben, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Prod, aude, fredw, Pkra, jayvdb, Ricordisamoa, scfc, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T150877: Unit conversion does not create psn:P2043 for Q531

2016-11-21 Thread Smalyshev
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 322704 had a related patch set uploaded (by WMDE-leszek):
Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Claimed] T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
WMDE-leszek claimed this task.WMDE-leszek moved this task from Proposed to Doing on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15 board.
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Re: [Wikidata-tech] Two questions about Lexeme Modeling

2016-11-21 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Hi all!

Sorry for the delay. To keep the conversation in one place, I will reply to
David, Denny, and Philipp in one mail. It's going to be a bit long, sorry...

Am 11.11.2016 um 23:17 schrieb David Cuenca Tudela:
> Hi there!
> 
> 1) a possible solution could be to have another category of items ("Gxxx",
> grammatical rule?) to store grammatical structures, like "Noun + verb + 
> object"
> or "Noun + reflexive verb" and then linking to that structure with a qualifier
> of the position that it uses on that structure. Example:
> "to shit"  "Subject + reflexive verb + 
> reflexive
> pronoun"
>  "reflexive verb"

I see no need for a separate entity type, this could be done with a regular
Item. If we want this to work nicely for display, though, the software would
need to know about some "magic" properties and their meaning. Since Wikidata
provides a stable global vocabulary, it would not be terrible to hard-code this.
But still, it's special case code...

This is pretty similar to Lemon's "Syntactic Frame" that Philipp pointed out,
see below.

> 2) I would prefer statements as they can be complemented with qualifiers as 
> for
> why it has a certain spelling (geographical variant, old usage, 
> corruption...).

You can always use a statement for this kind of information, just as we do now
on Wikidata with properties for the surname or official name.

The question is how often the flexibility of a statement is really needed. If
it's not too often, it would be ok to require both (the lemma and the statement)
to be entered separately, as we do now for official name, birth name, etc.

Another question is which (multi-term lemma or secondary lemma-in-a-statement)
is easier to handle by a 3rd party consumer. More about that later.

> It would be nice however if there would be some mechanism to have a special 
> kind
> of property that would use its value as an item alias. And this is something
> that could benefit normal items in Wikidata too, as most name properties like
> P1448, P1477 (official name, birth name, etc), should have its value
> automatically show as alias of the item in all languages, if that were
> technologically feasible.

Yes, this would be very convenient. But it would also mix levels of content
(editorial vs. sourced) that are now nicely separated. I'm very tempted, but I'm
not sure it's worth it.

Am 12.11.2016 um 00:08 schrieb Denny Vrandečić:
> Not only that. "I shit myself" is very different from "Don't shit yourself".
> It is not just the reflexivity. It might the whole phrase.

Yes, the boundary to a phrase is not clear cut. But if we need the full power of
modeling as a phrase, we can always do that by creating a separate Lexeme for
the phrase. The question is if that should be the preferred or even the only way
to model the "syntactic frame".

It's typical for a dictionary to have a list of meanings structured like this:

  to ask
  to ask so. sth.
  to ask so. for sth.
  to ask so. about sth.
  to ask so. after sb.
  to ask so. out
  ...

It would be nice if we had an easy way to create such an overview. If each line
is modeled as a separate Lexeme, we need to decide how these Lexemes should be
connected to allow such an overview.

I feel these "frames" should be attached to senses. Making all of them separate
Lexemes will drive granularity up, making things hard to follow and maintain.

> We could also add this information as a special field in the Sense
> entity, but I don't even know what that field should contain, exactly.

It could be a reference to an Item. Perhaps that item defines a specific
pattern, like "$verb someone" or "$verb someone something" or "$verb oneself".
That pattern (defined by a statement on the item) can then be used to render the
concrete pattern for each word sense.

> Just a usage example on the sense? That would often be enough to express the
> proposition.

Possible, but then it's unclear which parts of the grammar are required to
generate a specific meaning. You'd need some kind of markup in the example,
which I would like to avoid.

> I am not a friend of multi-variant lemmas. I would prefer to either have
> separate Lexemes or alternative Forms. Yes, there will be duplication in the
> data, but this is expected already, and also, since it is machine-readable,
> the duplication can be easily checked and bot-ified.

Getting rid of bots that keep duplicate data in sync was one of the reasons we
created Wikidata, and one of it's major selling points. Bots have a lot of uses,
but copying data around isn't really a good one.

Also, how do you sync deletions? Reverts? The semantics is not trivial.

> Also, this is how Wiktionary works today:
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/colour
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/color
>
> Notice that there is no primacy of either.

True. But that's not how other dictionaries work:

https://dict.leo.org/ende/index_de.html#/search=color
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/colour

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151213: Separate TermIndexEntry to the object used in search results and the object used as a mask in search

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
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TASK DESCRIPTIONCurrently it is possible to create incomplete instances of TermIndexEntry. Incomplete instances might be used as a "mask" in term search. Another usage is in the actual search results, where the instance is "complete".

Those two concerns should be split to separate objects. Apart from not mixing two different needs, such separation could also improve the internal implementation of current TermIndexEntry.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151213EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: WMDE-leszekCc: daniel, WMDE-leszek, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T151213: Separate TermIndexEntry to the object used in search results and the object used as a mask in search

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
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EDIT DETAILS...This change would not affect the existing codewould involve extending ItemId::newFromNumber and PropertyId::newFromNumber to also accept repository name as a parameter (empty/null by default).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151210EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: WMDE-leszekCc: daniel, Aklapper, WMDE-leszek, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149499: Implement LexemeView

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 319631 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add LexemeView

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T151053: Create repo-aware TermSqlIndex

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
WMDE-leszek created subtask T151212: Make TermIndexEntry's constructor expect the instance of EntityId as an enity id, not the number.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151212: Make TermIndexEntry's constructor expect the instance of EntityId as an enity id, not the number

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
WMDE-leszek created this task.WMDE-leszek added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15.
TASK DESCRIPTIONThis would remove the EntityId composing/creation logic out of the TermIndexEntry.

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Re: [Wikidata] Data import hub, data preperation instructions and import workflow for muggles

2016-11-21 Thread john cummings
Hi Magnus

I've avoided mentioning those for now as I know you are working on new
tools, also I'm not very good at using them so wouldn't write good
instructions :) I hope that once this is somewhere 'proper' that others
with more knowledge can add this information in.

My main idea with this is to break up the steps so people can collaborate
on importing datasets and also learn skills along the workflow over time
rather than having to learn everything in one go.

Thanks

John

On 21 November 2016 at 17:11, Magnus Manske 
wrote:

> There are other options to consider:
> * Curated import/sync via mix'n'match
> * Batch-based import via QuickStatements (also see rewrite plans at
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/quick_statements2 )
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:11 PM john cummings 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>>
>> Myself and Navino Evans have been working on a bare bone as possible
>> workflow and instructions for making importing data into Wikidata available
>> to muggles like me. We have written instructions up to the point where
>> people would make a request on the 'bot requests' page to import the data
>> into Wikidata.
>>
>>
>> Please take a look and share your thoughts
>>
>>
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Dataimporthub
>>
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/wikidataimport_guide
>>
>>
>> Thanks very much
>>
>>
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
WMDE-leszek created this task.WMDE-leszek added projects: Wikidata, Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15.
TASK DESCRIPTIONA constructor of TermIndexEntry should allow to specify repository name, and there should be getter/setter for the repository name. Value of the field will not be stored in the database.

Having this field added would allow to use foreign entities in search.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T151053: Create repo-aware TermSqlIndex

2016-11-21 Thread WMDE-leszek
WMDE-leszek created subtask T151210: Add repository name to TermIndexEntry.
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[Wikidata] Data import hub, data preperation instructions and import workflow for muggles

2016-11-21 Thread john cummings
Dear all


Myself and Navino Evans have been working on a bare bone as possible
workflow and instructions for making importing data into Wikidata available
to muggles like me. We have written instructions up to the point where
people would make a request on the 'bot requests' page to import the data
into Wikidata.


Please take a look and share your thoughts


https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/Dataimporthub

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:John_Cummings/wikidataimport_guide


Thanks very much


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[Wikidata] Weekly Summary #236

2016-11-21 Thread Léa Lacroix
*Hello!Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around
Wikidata over the last week.*
Discussions

   - New request for comments: How to make new languages enabled on Wikidata
   


Events /Press/Blogs


   - Problematizing and Addressing the Article as Concept Assumption in
   Wikipedia  (
   Q27827559 )
   - schema.org, Wikidata, Knowledge Graph: strands of the modern semantic
   web  by Dan Scott

Other Noteworthy Stuff

   - Parlement & Politiek ID (P1749)
    has been completed in
   Mix'n'match. Over 5000 politicians from the Netherlands (and also Belgium)
   now have a link to this resource
   - Two policies about abandoned tools on Tool Labs
   

   are currently voted on
   - The Community Wishlist Survey
    is now
   closed and the vote phase will start on November 28. Here's the category
   for Wikidata
   

   - Data import hub
    and Data
   import guide
   :
   feel free to give feedbacks on these documents!

Did you know?

   - Newest properties
   : musipedia tune ID
   , Adult Film Database
   person ID , WHO
   international non-proprietary names ID
   , designed to carry
   , National Library of
   Greece ID , PermID
   , HKMDb person ID
   , RxNorm CUI
   , Vote Smart ID
   , legislation.gov.uk ID
   , significant person
   , Kvikmyndir person ID
   , Kvikmyndir film ID
   , World Surf League ID
   , Encyclopedia of Surfing
   ID 
   - Query examples:
  - Occupations of women, with French female-form labels
  

  (source , database
  report
  )
  - Documents with most signatories
  

  (source )
  - Filming locations of James Bond films
  

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
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We use the same blue color in many more places. My personal opinion is: Either change it everywhere, or only in these message windows (which means: leave the patch as it is).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151194EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmdeCc: gerritbot, Jonas, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Jan_Dittrich, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, Ramalepe, Lewizho99, Maathavan, SamanthaNguyen, JGirault, D3r1ck01, Volker_E, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T98375: [Task] ChangeOpClaim should handle indices per property id

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T99243: [Story] consistent order of statements in an item

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T98375: [Task] ChangeOpClaim should handle indices per property id as "Invalid".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread Ladsgroup
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Do you think it would be okay to give the top of the popup the same color and then we would be good to go with this patch?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151194EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: LadsgroupCc: gerritbot, Jonas, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Jan_Dittrich, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, Ramalepe, Lewizho99, Maathavan, SamanthaNguyen, JGirault, D3r1ck01, Volker_E, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T74297: [RFC] Have API return and accept lists instead of maps to maintain order

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed this task as "Invalid".Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T59666: [Task] Ensure normalized ordering of claims and snaks in the API

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T74297: [RFC] Have API return and accept lists instead of maps to maintain order as "Invalid".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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Change 322494 had a related patch set uploaded (by Thiemo Mättig (WMDE)):
A little bit more compliance with Wikimedia's color palette

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
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https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/322494 is the first patch. This is what it does (left = old, right = new, top = a colored popup, bottom = an error message):

F4818412: ui-closable-colors.png

As you can see this patch leaves the UI in an inconsistent state. Personally I don't think this is bad, but we should make sure we agree we want this, and agree on some minimum acceptance criteria. Explicitly pinging @Lydia_Pintscher.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151194EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmdeCc: Jonas, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, Jan_Dittrich, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, SamanthaNguyen, JGirault, D3r1ck01, Volker_E, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
thiemowmde triaged this task as "Normal" priority.thiemowmde added subscribers: Lydia_Pintscher, thiemowmde, Jonas.thiemowmde added projects: Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15, WMDE-Design.Herald added a project: Design.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
thiemowmde added a parent task: T148708: Replace abandoned colors in current WMF products.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T151092: Change in quantities broke pywikibot

2016-11-21 Thread Multichill
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T150521: pywikibot.data.sparql SparqlQuery.select() crashes on OPTIONAL values

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150521: pywikibot.data.sparql SparqlQuery.select() crashes on OPTIONAL values

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 322648 had a related patch set uploaded (by Gerrit Patch Uploader):
T150521: Don't crash on queries with optional values

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151092: Change in quantities broke pywikibot

2016-11-21 Thread Ladsgroup
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This should solve it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/320649/2 (just got merged)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151092EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: LadsgroupCc: aude, TerraCodes, Luke081515, Jay8g, hoo, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, pywikibot-bugs-list, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T150891: Find a good way to represent multi-lingual text fields in Elastic

2016-11-21 Thread daniel
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@Lydia_Pintscher How does this rank on your road map? Getting this done would be really helpful - in particular, it would prevent the terms table from blowing up in our face one fine Friday evening...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150891EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: aude, danielCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jan_Dittrich, EBernhardson, dcausse, hoo, Ricordisamoa, aude, Deskana, StudiesWorld, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Tobi_WMDE_SW, thiemowmde, JanZerebecki, gerritbot, Jonas, daniel, EBjune, mschwarzer, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, jayvdb, Mbch331, jeremyb___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties

2016-11-21 Thread matej_suchanek
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EDIT DETAILS...Note that both use `lang="gd"`, although P27`P27` is using the English (en) label, and P30`P30` is using the correct Gaelic (gd) label* [x] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320796
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T149687: Implement Special:NewLexeme

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 320236 merged by jenkins-bot:
SpecialNewLexeme extending SpecialWikibaseRepoPage

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151186: Add monolingual language code fr-ca

2016-11-21 Thread VIGNERON
VIGNERON added a comment.
Sound globally like a good idea but we should go further and deeper.

I feel the request and the example is not wide enough, true « épinette de Norvège » is more common in Canada but this species have dozen of name in french, fr-ca label only solve one name.
Why only fr-ca, why not fr-be, fr-ch, fr-us, fr-qc, etc. ? Right now, we only have frc and frp (because they are far - and lucky - enough to have an ISO 639 code), I think we should look at this globally instead of doing one by one request.

PS: out of curiosity, how far is fr-ca to fr (I don't have numbers but it seems much closer than en-ca to en, and it's more a question of grammar than vocabulary and Wikidata don't care much for grammar ; there is no case like colour/color or organise/organize).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151186EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: VIGNERONCc: VIGNERON, Esc3300, Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, Fralambert, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151129: Add monolingual language code moe

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 322492 merged by jenkins-bot:
Add monolingual language code 'moe'

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T148827: Implement Lemma in Lexeme

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 322073 merged by jenkins-bot:
First pass on Lemma

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T144272: new monolingual language code requests for Wikidata (tracking)

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
Jonas closed subtask T151129: Add monolingual language code moe as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T151129: Add monolingual language code moe

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
Jonas closed this task as "Resolved".Jonas moved this task from Review to Done on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-15 board.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151129: Add monolingual language code moe

2016-11-21 Thread GerardM
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The name is capitalised according to Ethnologue but yes, it is a recognised language. 
Thanks,

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties

2016-11-21 Thread gerritbot
gerritbot added a comment.
Change 320643 merged by jenkins-bot:
Use actualLanguageCode on ListProperties

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T76216: [Epic] Language fallback

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
Jonas closed subtask T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
Jonas closed this task as "Resolved".Jonas moved this task from Review to Done on the Wikidata-Sprint-2016-11-08 board.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Unblock] T96040: Wikibase special pages (tracking)

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
Jonas closed subtask T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties as "Resolved".
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T147328: Add http://tools.wmflabs.org/grafana-json-datasource as a datasource to production grafana instance

2016-11-21 Thread Addshore
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T151129: Add monolingual language code moe

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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@GerardM @jhsoby Can you please ok?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151129EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: aude, Lydia_PintscherCc: jhsoby, Jonas, GerardM, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, gerritbot, Amqui, Aklapper, Ramalepe, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151129: Add monolingual language code moe

2016-11-21 Thread Jonas
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@Lydia_Pintscher do you approve?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151129EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: aude, JonasCc: Jonas, GerardM, thiemowmde, Lydia_Pintscher, gerritbot, Amqui, Aklapper, Ramalepe, Lewizho99, Maathavan, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T127470: Wikidata item quality classification

2016-11-21 Thread Glorian_Yapinus
Glorian_Yapinus added subscribers: Halfak, Ladsgroup.Glorian_Yapinus added a comment.
@Sumit : thanks! I will let you know if I need something from you regarding to this task!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108292: [Task] create concept for feeding back data quality issues to data providers and getting feedback from data consumers

2016-11-21 Thread Glorian_Yapinus
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I have finished the concept work and handed it over to @Lydia_PintscherTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108292EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Glorian_YapinusCc: Sumit, Glorian_Yapinus, Rical, Zorglub27, T.seppelt, TomT0m, Nemo_bis, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T151092: Change in quantities broke pywikibot

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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Same as T150210?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151092EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: aude, TerraCodes, Luke081515, Jay8g, hoo, Ladsgroup, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, Multichill, pywikibot-bugs-list, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Ricordisamoa, Wesalius, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T113955: [Story] Show links to local wiki articles in statements in ArticlePlaceholder

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
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EDIT DETAILSIn case we have Items as statements, that have a page on the wiki, we should probably link to that page. 

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* [ ] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/320593
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T135045: [Bug] Correct language fallback rendering on Special:ListProperties

2016-11-21 Thread thiemowmde
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EDIT DETAILS...`country of citizenshipBeurla`

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T150737: Error for the property math formula in some languages

2016-11-21 Thread Lea_Lacroix_WMDE
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I still see the error in the property here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q45867?uselang=ruTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150737EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Physikerwelt, Lea_Lacroix_WMDECc: GWicke, mobrovac, Physikerwelt, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, Debenben, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Prod, aude, fredw, Pkra, scfc, Mbch331, Ltrlg___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T151186: Add monolingual language code fr-ca

2016-11-21 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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@GerardM thanks. Can the committee please come to a clear yes or no? Thanks :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151186EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, GerardM, Fralambert, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T151194: Apply ui standardization color palette to Wikibase

2016-11-21 Thread Ladsgroup
Ladsgroup created this task.Ladsgroup added projects: Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, UI-Standardization.Herald added a subscriber: Aklapper.
TASK DESCRIPTIONSee M82: Color paletteTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151194EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: LadsgroupCc: Jan_Dittrich, Aklapper, Ladsgroup, SamanthaNguyen, JGirault, D3r1ck01, Volker_E, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Mbch331, Jay8g, Ltrlg___
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Re: [Wikidata-tech] Fwd: Two questions about Lexeme Modeling

2016-11-21 Thread Philipp Cimiano

Dear Denny, Daniel,

 thanks for your question. I try to answer.

ad 1) "ask somebody about" and "ask somebody to" are two different 
syntactic and semantic frames.


Please look at the final spec of the lemon model:

https://www.w3.org/community/ontolex/wiki/Final_Model_Specification#Syntactic_Frames

In particular, check example: synsem/example7

There you see two different syntactic frames for the word "give". In 
this case they both represent the same sense corresponding to an 
exchange of goods but with different syntactic construcitons.


In your case for "ask" there would be also two syntactic frames, but two 
senses instead of one.


If you want I can send you a modelled example.

2) Such spelling variants are modelled in lemon as two different 
representations of the same lexical entry.


See ontolex/example3 in the above mentioned spec. After all, it is the 
same word with the same meanings and same pronunciation but just with a 
different spelling for each dialect of English.


In our understanding these are not two different forms as you mention, 
but two different spellings of the same form.


A form represents a particular grammatical variant, not a spelling 
variant. In this case it is the singular form of the noun. But both 
spellings really represent the same (grammatical) form, that is the 
singular form of the noun.


You do not need to specify one main written representation for each 
form, as both are valid depending on the context.


The preference for showing e.g. the American or English variant should 
be stated by the application that uses the lexicon.


Does this help?

Philipp

Am 11.11.16 um 20:07 schrieb Denny Vrandečić:
The Wikidata Lexeme model is basically based on Lemon, so I wanted to 
ask you whether you have answers for the following questions in Lemon?


Feel free to answer directly to the list:

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-tech/2016-November/001057.html 



Cheers,
Denny



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From: Daniel Kinzler >

Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:03 AM
Subject: [Wikidata-tech] Two questions about Lexeme Modeling
To: wikidata-tech >



Hi all!

There is two questions about modelling lexemes that are bothering me. 
One is an

old question, and one I only came across recently.

1) The question that came up for me recently is how we model the 
grammatical
context for senses. For instance, "to ask" can mean requesting 
information, or
requesting action, depending on whether we use "ask somebody about" or 
"ask
somebody to". Similarly, "to shit" has entirely different meanings 
when used

reflexively ("I shit myself").

There is no good place for this in our current model. The information 
could be
placed in a statement on the word Sense, but that would be kind of 
non-obvious,
and would not (at least not easily) allow for a concise rendering, in 
the way we
see it in most dictionaries ("to ask sbdy to do sthg"). The 
alternative would be
to treat each usage with a different grammatical context as a separate 
Lexeme (a
verb phrase Lexeme), so "to shit oneself" would be a separate lemma. 
That could
lead to a fragmentation of the content in a way that is quite 
unexpected to

people used to traditional dictionaries.

We could also add this information as a special field in the Sense 
entity, but I

don't even know what that field should contain, exactly.

Got a better idea?


2) The older question is how we handle different renderings 
(spellings, scripts)
of the same lexeme. In English we have "color" vs "colour", in German 
we have

"stop" vs "stopp" and "Maße" vs "Masse". In Serbian, we have a Roman and
Cyrillic rendering for every word. We can treat these as separate 
Lexemes, but
that would mean duplicating all information about them. We could have 
a single
Lemma, and represent the others as alternative Forms, or using 
statements on the
Lexeme. But that raises the question which spelling or script should 
be the

"main" one, and used in the lemma.

I would prefer to have multi-variant lemmas. They would work like the
multi-lingual labels we have now on items, but restricted to the 
variants of a

single language. For display, we would apply a similar language fallback
mechanism we now apply when showing labels.

2b) if we treat lemmas as multi-variant, should Forms also be 
multi-variant, or
should they be per-variant? Should the glosse of a Sense be 
multi-variant? I

currently tend towards "yes" for all of the above.


What do you think?


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