[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95877: [Story] Setting languages with Babel boxes does not work for global user page

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Thanks to @Envlh for confirming, and thanks to @Legoktm and everybody else who worked on this.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T145455: FileAnnotator should handle edit API failures (simple way to reproduce: disallow a URL with SpamBlacklist)

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Change 312823 abandoned by Prtksxna:
Handle API failures when editing

Reason:
No one is working on FileAnnotations

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Re: [Wikidata] An answer to Lydia Pintscher regarding its considerations on Wikidata and CC-0

[mathieu stumpf guntz]

Dear Leila


Le 02/12/2017 à 21:48, Leila Zia a écrit :
[I apologize for the longish response, and I will do what I can to 
take the rest of this offlist as needed. I just see a couple of places 
where I need to add more explanation.]
Then I feel somewhat bond to respond too. But too make it shorts, I 
don't think I add in this email says anything that wasn't already said 
before. So anyone already fed up with this thread can just skip this 
message with no fear to miss any revelation. And to make it clear, I 
don't expect any answer to this message on the list, but will diligently 
reply in private if you are looking for more information from my part.


​(​Side-note. We should take this part offline but for the record: I 
couldn't find a place where transparency was listed as an agreed upon 
and shared value of our movement as a whole. There are subgroups that 
consider it a core value or one of the guiding principles, and it's of 
course built in in many of the things we do in Wikimedia, but I'm 
hesitant to call it /a core value of our movement/ given that it's not 
listed somewhere as such. btw, for the record, it's high on my 
personal and professional list of values.)
Here is an official Wikimedia Foundation presentation support of 2017 
related to leadership where /being transparent/ is explicitely stated in 
a silde titled "Staying true to our values": 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AWhat_is_Leadership%3F.pdf=25


​While I agree that transparency is a value for many of us, it is not 
very clear, to at least me, how we as a whole define transparency to 
the level that can be used in practice. In the absence of a shared 
practical definition for transparency, each of us (or groups of us) 
define a process as transparent as a function of how big/impactful the 
result of a process is at each point in time, our 
backgrounds/cultures/countries-we're-from, how much personal trust we 
have in the process or the people involved in the process, etc. If 
this is correct, this means that in practice we as individuals or 
groups define what transparency means for us and we will demand 
specific things based on our own definition. So, while in theory you 
are requesting/demanding something that is likely a shared value for 
many of us, in practice, you are entering your own checklist (that may 
be shared with some other people's view on transparency in a specific 
case) that once met, you will call the process transparent. That's why 
I interpreted what I heard from you as "I" demand transparency, versus 
"we, as a movement" demand transparency in this case.
I completely agree with you with the lake of clear definition of some 
crucial core notions we use all the time. This is also a feedback I red 
in several comments in the 2017 strategy consultation. Staying vague 
brings both pros and cons of flexibility. An other example is "free 
license", which is for example used in the foundation bylaws 
, but not defined it it. 
One might argue that "free license" has a clear cultural meaning in the 
free/libre culture movement, with the four famous freedom inherited from 
free software. But this is a legal document, what is not clearly 
explicitly stated is subject to large interpretation variations. But at 
list the foundation has "free license" in its bylaws, I know that the 
equivalent is not even mentioned in the French chapter similar document 
.




To give you a more specific example: as an Iranian involved in 
Wikimedia movement who knows Markus through his contributions to 
Wikidata and at a professional/work level, I trusted Markus' words 
when he said that those in early stages of the project didn't think of 
Wikidata as a project that one day becomes as big as it is today. I 
believe it that this was a fun project that they wanted to see 
succeed, but they were not sure at all if it gets somewhere, so the 
natural thing to do for them was to spend time to see if they can help 
it take off at all as opposed to spending time on documenting 
decisions in case it takes off and they need to show to people how 
they have done things. If trust between Markus and I were broken, 
however, I would likely not be content with that level of response and 
I would ask/demand for more explanation. In case (ii), and in the 
absence of a shared practical definition of transparency, my personal 
priors and understandings of the case would define when I call the 
process transparent.
The issue has nothing to do with Markus or anyone else being an honest 
sympathetic person, and just by "assuming good faith" surely we can 
grant that, even without any testimony, to every contributors unless 
clear proof of the contrary should make think otherwise. Also the issue 
is not how Wikidata project debuted in some confidential ways with 
uncertain results.


One issue remounted here is that 

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T181401: wikidatawiki_p.wb_items_per_site query is slower than expected on Wiki Replicas

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T46529: Wikidata search problems (tracking)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T180382: Emptying description on Wikidata doesn't remove it from ElasticSearch database used by wbsearchentities

[Smalyshev]

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Indeed, https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1154385?action=""> shows the description is there, even though it was edited. @dcausse, maybe you have an idea why the data hasn't been updated?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180382EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SmalyshevCc: gerritbot, dcausse, Smalyshev, Sjoerddebruin, Aklapper, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jrbranaa, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, EBjune, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, debt, Gehel, Jdrewniak, FloNight, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T95877: [Story] Setting languages with Babel boxes does not work for global user page

[Envlh]

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Sorry, I didn't see this task as I wasn't added to it. The problem was solved for me a few hours/days later in August. Thanks :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95877EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Legoktm, EnvlhCc: Envlh, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Ladsgroup, PokestarFan, Amire80, Nemo_bis, gerritbot, Zppix, jeblad, Nikki, NMaia, adrianheine, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331, Agabi10, Multichill, Legoktm, Ricordisamoa, JanZerebecki, aude, hoo, thiemowmde, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, TheDragonFire, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, Iniquity, Srdjan_m, MuhammadShuaib, LNDDYL, MGChecker, Psychoslave, Wikidata-bugs, SPQRobin, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, KartikMistry, Jay8g, Quiddity___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T180382: Emptying description on Wikidata doesn't remove it from ElasticSearch database used by wbsearchentities

[Sjoerddebruin]

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This is still happening when mass-deleting descriptions using https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-dataDrainer.js, for example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1154385.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180382EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Smalyshev, SjoerddebruinCc: gerritbot, dcausse, Smalyshev, Sjoerddebruin, Aklapper, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Jrbranaa, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, EBjune, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, debt, Gehel, Jdrewniak, FloNight, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Gryllida, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T181885: Links open in the current tab despite Ctrl+click or Shift+click

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181885: Links open in the current tab despite Ctrl+click or Shift+click

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Change 394871 had a related patch set uploaded (by Maxlath; owner: Maxlath):
[wikidata/query/gui@master] Let the browser handle click events with a modifier key on examples links so that the links can be open in a new tab or window

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Stas Malyshev]

Hi!

> Can somebody please explain (in simple terms) what's the difference
> between "all" and "truthy" RDF dumps? I've read the explanation
> available on the wiki [1] but I still don't get it.

Technically "truthy" is the set of statements with best non-deprecated
rank for the property. Semantically, it is the value you most likely
expect as the answer to a simple question "what is X of Y", like "what
is the population of London" or "who is the wife of the US president?"

> If I'm just a user of the data, because I want to retrieve
> information about a particular item and link items with other
> graphs... what am I missing/leaving-out by using "truthy" instead of
> "all"?

Historical data - i.e. current population vs. all historic population
figures, current spouse vs.all previous marriages, current head of state
vs. list of all people occupying the office. Some other data, possibly,
such as official name vs. alias (provided that is expressed as a
property), commonly accepted value vs. alternative possibilities, etc.

> A practical example would be appreciated since it will clarify
> things, I suppose.

Current (as in, latest/best available for now) population of London
would be found as "truthy" value (wdt), all other population figures -
e.g. historical figures - will be under "all" (p/ps/psv).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T180459: Update the location of DataTypes i18n on translatewiki.net

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181928: Wikibase\Repo\Tests\Actions\ViewEntityActionTest::testShowDiff failing on CI

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T168035: dewiktionary on beta gives Undefined variable: wmgWikibaseSiteGroup

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I ran this myself and looked at jenkins running it and this notice doesn't appear to appear any more.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181401: wikidatawiki_p.wb_items_per_site query is slower than expected on Wiki Replicas

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T160052: [Epic] Support for Forms

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T160052: [Epic] Support for Forms

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Thomas Douillard]

In the RDF dump, used by the query service, totally. See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/Indexing/RDF_Dump_Format . In the
json dump, all these is encoded by a "mainsnak" attribute and a
"qualifiers" one : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase/DataModel/JSON

2017-12-03 15:34 GMT+01:00 Laura Morales :

> > If you want to know when, why, where, etc, you have to
> > check the qualified "full" statements.
>
> All these qualifiers are encoded as additional triples in "all", correct?
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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Andrew Lih]

I had the same question about “truthy” and why we typed in “wdt” in
Wikidata Query in some places and “wd” in others.

Lukas Werkmeister gave this nice succinct explanation during our Wikicite
training, that may be useful:

https://youtu.be/XLlzTtozRY4?t=2h23m10s

-Andrew




On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Laura Morales  wrote:

> Can somebody please explain (in simple terms) what's the difference
> between "all" and "truthy" RDF dumps? I've read the explanation available
> on the wiki [1] but I still don't get it.
> If I'm just a user of the data, because I want to retrieve information
> about a particular item and link items with other graphs... what am I
> missing/leaving-out by using "truthy" instead of "all"?
> A practical example would be appreciated since it will clarify things, I
> suppose.
>
> [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps
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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Laura Morales]

> If you want to know when, why, where, etc, you have to
> check the qualified "full" statements.

All these qualifiers are encoded as additional triples in "all", correct?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T179241: Enable the ArticlePlaceholder for Northern Sami (sewiki)

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Thomas Douillard]

« Ranking » is a Wikibase feature to deal with this. If one of the
statement is ranked « preferred », typically the one valid at present time,
then it will be the only one present in a typical query result or in an
infobox extraction.

2017-12-03 14:49 GMT+01:00 Imre Samu :

> >All=contains not only the Truthy ones, but also the ones with qualifiers
>
> imho:  Sometimes Qualifiers is very important for multiple values  (
>  like "Start time","End time","point in time", ... )
> for example:   Russia https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159  :  Russia -
> P38:"currency"
> has 2 "statements" both with qualifiers:
>
> * Russian ruble -  ( start time: 1992 )
> * Soviet ruble  - (end time: September 1993 )
>
> My Question:
> in this case - what is the "Truthy=simple" result for
>  Russia-P38:"currency" ?
>
>
> Regards,
>  Imre
>
>
>
> 2017-12-03 7:54 GMT+01:00 Fariz Darari :
>
>> Truthy=simple, direct, only Subject-Predicate-Object structure
>>
>> For example: wd:Q76127 wdt:P26 wd:Q468519 (= Sukarno hasSpouse Fatmawati)
>>
>> All=contains not only the Truthy ones, but also the ones with qualifiers
>> (= how long was the marriage? when did the marriage happen?), references
>> (sources to support the claim), and preferences (in case of multiple
>> values, one might be preferred -- think of multiple birth dates of some
>> people).
>>
>> -fariz
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fariz
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Laura Morales  wrote:
>>
>>> Can somebody please explain (in simple terms) what's the difference
>>> between "all" and "truthy" RDF dumps? I've read the explanation available
>>> on the wiki [1] but I still don't get it.
>>> If I'm just a user of the data, because I want to retrieve information
>>> about a particular item and link items with other graphs... what am I
>>> missing/leaving-out by using "truthy" instead of "all"?
>>> A practical example would be appreciated since it will clarify things, I
>>> suppose.
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps
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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Fariz Darari]

Current state gives me one result, the Russian ruble, due to its preferred
rank (notice the wdt prefix):

https://query.wikidata.org/#select%20%2a%0A%7B%20wd%3AQ159%20wdt%3AP38%20%3Fcurrency%20%7D



On Dec 3, 2017 21:02, "Daniel Kinzler"  wrote:

Am 03.12.2017 um 14:49 schrieb Imre Samu:
>>All=contains not only the Truthy ones,but also the ones with qualifiers
>
> imho:  Sometimes Qualifiers is very important for multiple values  (
 like
> "Start time","End time","point in time", ... )
> for example:   Russia https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159  :  Russia -
P38:"currency"
> has 2 "statements" both with qualifiers:
>
> * Russian ruble -  ( start time: 1992 )
> * Soviet ruble  - (end time: September 1993 )
>
> My Question:
> in this case - what is the "Truthy=simple" result for
 Russia-P38:"currency" ?

You will simply get two truthy results: Russian rubel, and Soviet rubel.
Both
are Russian currencies. If you want to know when, why, where, etc, you have
to
check the qualified "full" statements.

That's why it's called "truthy": the answer is kind of true, depending on
context.

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Principal Platform Engineer

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Daniel Kinzler]

Am 03.12.2017 um 14:49 schrieb Imre Samu:
>>All=contains not only the Truthy ones,but also the ones with qualifiers
> 
> imho:  Sometimes Qualifiers is very important for multiple values  (   like
> "Start time","End time","point in time", ... )
> for example:   Russia https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159  :  Russia - 
> P38:"currency"
> has 2 "statements" both with qualifiers:
> 
> * Russian ruble -  ( start time: 1992 )
> * Soviet ruble  - (end time: September 1993 )
> 
> My Question:
> in this case - what is the "Truthy=simple" result for   Russia-P38:"currency" 
> ?

You will simply get two truthy results: Russian rubel, and Soviet rubel. Both
are Russian currencies. If you want to know when, why, where, etc, you have to
check the qualified "full" statements.

That's why it's called "truthy": the answer is kind of true, depending on 
context.

-- 
Daniel Kinzler
Principal Platform Engineer

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T166216: Imagegrid should lazy load

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Imre Samu]

>All=contains not only the Truthy ones, but also the ones with qualifiers

imho:  Sometimes Qualifiers is very important for multiple values  (   like
"Start time","End time","point in time", ... )
for example:   Russia https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q159  :  Russia -
P38:"currency"
has 2 "statements" both with qualifiers:

* Russian ruble -  ( start time: 1992 )
* Soviet ruble  - (end time: September 1993 )

My Question:
in this case - what is the "Truthy=simple" result for
 Russia-P38:"currency" ?


Regards,
 Imre



2017-12-03 7:54 GMT+01:00 Fariz Darari :

> Truthy=simple, direct, only Subject-Predicate-Object structure
>
> For example: wd:Q76127 wdt:P26 wd:Q468519 (= Sukarno hasSpouse Fatmawati)
>
> All=contains not only the Truthy ones, but also the ones with qualifiers
> (= how long was the marriage? when did the marriage happen?), references
> (sources to support the claim), and preferences (in case of multiple
> values, one might be preferred -- think of multiple birth dates of some
> people).
>
> -fariz
>
> Regards,
> Fariz
>
> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Laura Morales  wrote:
>
>> Can somebody please explain (in simple terms) what's the difference
>> between "all" and "truthy" RDF dumps? I've read the explanation available
>> on the wiki [1] but I still don't get it.
>> If I'm just a user of the data, because I want to retrieve information
>> about a particular item and link items with other graphs... what am I
>> missing/leaving-out by using "truthy" instead of "all"?
>> A practical example would be appreciated since it will clarify things, I
>> suppose.
>>
>> [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T181371: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ListDatatypes should have anchors

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T181928: Wikibase\Repo\Tests\Actions\ViewEntityActionTest::testShowDiff failing on CI

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181927: Add Spanish namespace translations to the Wikibase repository

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T181927: Add Spanish namespace translations to the Wikibase repository

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T181927: Add Spanish namespace translations to the Wikibase repository

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181885: Links open in the current tab despite Ctrl+click or Shift+click

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This line needs to be changed:
https://github.com/wikimedia/wikidata-query-gui/blob/master/wikibase/queryService/ui/QueryExampleDialog.js#L256

And this line shows how create the link:
https://github.com/wikimedia/wikidata-query-gui/blob/master/wikibase/queryService/ui/QueryExampleDialog.js#L287

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181885: Links open in the current tab despite Ctrl+click or Shift+click

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ooh I didn't see the preview button, but yes, just adding a href to query.wikidata.org#SELECT... URLs and not preventing default on click events when opened outside shouldn't be too hard(?) and of great value for tabs extensive users :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181885EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Zorglub27Cc: Jonas, Smalyshev, Zorglub27, Aklapper, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, EBjune, merbst, Avner, debt, Gehel, FloNight, Xmlizer, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Tobias1984, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T181885: Links open in the current tab despite Ctrl+click or Shift+click

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So you request to link the examples properly (  query.wikidata.org#Select ) instead of just # ?
This should be simple to change.

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Re: [Wikidata] RDF: All vs Truthy

[Maxime Lathuilière]

Additionally, and probably mostly as it's where they are taking there 
name from, truthy statements are statements with the best rank 
 on a given 
property: for instance, the Earth (Q2 
) has 3 shapes (P1419 
) statements - oblate 
spheroid (Q3241540), geoid (Q185969), and ball (Q838611) - but while 2 
(oblate spheroid, and ball) have a "normal" rank, 1 (geoid) was given a 
"preferred" rank. Thus, when considering truthy statments, the only 
value for Earth shape is geoid.


Hope that helps :)

Bests,

Maxime Lathuilière

Le 03/12/2017 à 07:54, Fariz Darari a écrit :

Truthy=simple, direct, only Subject-Predicate-Object structure

For example: wd:Q76127 wdt:P26 wd:Q468519 (= Sukarno hasSpouse Fatmawati)

All=contains not only the Truthy ones, but also the ones with 
qualifiers (= how long was the marriage? when did the marriage 
happen?), references (sources to support the claim), and preferences 
(in case of multiple values, one might be preferred -- think of 
multiple birth dates of some people).


-fariz

Regards,
Fariz

On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Laura Morales > wrote:


Can somebody please explain (in simple terms) what's the
difference between "all" and "truthy" RDF dumps? I've read the
explanation available on the wiki [1] but I still don't get it.
If I'm just a user of the data, because I want to retrieve
information about a particular item and link items with other
graphs... what am I missing/leaving-out by using "truthy" instead
of "all"?
A practical example would be appreciated since it will clarify
things, I suppose.

[1]
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_download#RDF_dumps


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