Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Hector Perez]

I'm also interested in improving voting records. On agreelist.org we are
creating a database of who does and who does not support issues such as
basic income, carbon tax, AI risks, etc. (not only politicians though), but
one thing is what people say and another one what they vote.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Tony Bowden  wrote:

> On 12 March 2018 at 23:23, Yuri Astrakhan  wrote:
> > Something I wish was available is the voting record, at least at a
> > country/state level.  Knowing the politician's time in office is a great
> > start, but how that person voted is what really makes democracy work.
>
> This is something I've been working on for quite a while: at mySociety
> we do this for the UK (e.g.
> https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10133/jeremy_corbyn/islington_north),
> and we've worked with a lot of groups who want to do something similar
> in other countries. But there are a lot of prerequisites to being able
> to do this, one of which is simply being able to even get a (well
> maintained) list of all the legislators and their parties etc. We got
> some funding to accelerate Wikidata having even that level of data
> across more countries (you can follow some of that / join in at
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_every_politician),
> but we definitely see that as being only the first step towards being
> able to do these much more useful things later.
>
> It's not clear to me, though, that Wikidata is the correct place to
> store this deeper information about voting records. Having items for
> all the individual politicians is definitely a good thing — they're
> all sufficiently notable. But having items for every bill going
> through every legislature seems like more of a stretch. I'd be very
> happy to be wrong about that though!
>
> Tony
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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Tony Bowden]

On 12 March 2018 at 23:23, Yuri Astrakhan  wrote:
> Something I wish was available is the voting record, at least at a
> country/state level.  Knowing the politician's time in office is a great
> start, but how that person voted is what really makes democracy work.

This is something I've been working on for quite a while: at mySociety
we do this for the UK (e.g.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10133/jeremy_corbyn/islington_north),
and we've worked with a lot of groups who want to do something similar
in other countries. But there are a lot of prerequisites to being able
to do this, one of which is simply being able to even get a (well
maintained) list of all the legislators and their parties etc. We got
some funding to accelerate Wikidata having even that level of data
across more countries (you can follow some of that / join in at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_every_politician),
but we definitely see that as being only the first step towards being
able to do these much more useful things later.

It's not clear to me, though, that Wikidata is the correct place to
store this deeper information about voting records. Having items for
all the individual politicians is definitely a good thing — they're
all sufficiently notable. But having items for every bill going
through every legislature seems like more of a stretch. I'd be very
happy to be wrong about that though!

Tony

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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Yuri Astrakhan, 13/03/2018 01:23:

Something I wish was available is the voting record


This is available for some parliaments in open data:

https://www.votewatch.eu/blog/guide-to-votewatcheu/

Or  from .

Federico


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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Seems like they simply store it as wiki markup -
https://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Marco+Rubio=edit,
unless they generate it from some other internal database.

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:10 PM, Stas Malyshev 
wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > Something I wish was available is the voting record, at least at a
> > country/state level.  Knowing the politician's time in office is a great
> > start, but how that person voted is what really makes democracy work.
>
> I think Ballotpedia has this data. E.g.: https://ballotpedia.org/Marco_
> Rubio
>
> Not sure however if it's structured or available in API form. It also
> has state level politicians, e.g.: https://ballotpedia.org/Bill_Monning
> - but it seems it's even harder to parse there.
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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Stas Malyshev]

Hi!

> Something I wish was available is the voting record, at least at a
> country/state level.  Knowing the politician's time in office is a great
> start, but how that person voted is what really makes democracy work.

I think Ballotpedia has this data. E.g.: https://ballotpedia.org/Marco_Rubio

Not sure however if it's structured or available in API form. It also
has state level politicians, e.g.: https://ballotpedia.org/Bill_Monning
- but it seems it's even harder to parse there.
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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Something I wish was available is the voting record, at least at a
country/state level.  Knowing the politician's time in office is a great
start, but how that person voted is what really makes democracy work.

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 5:16 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> For the majority of US states and territories  (eg Kentucky
> 
> ) I have added the dates of governors holding office to Wikidata. This
> information is based on lists from the English Wikipedia.  So you can
> follow the transition from the different parties (do not forget parties
> like the Wiggs).. When this information is complete I hope to bring this
> into a query that shows the US states and territories with maps; a colour
> change for the political party and a link that shows the politicians in
> power at that time.
>
> Sure there are other functions like senators, representatives lieutenant
> governors.. they can be included. It is however a relevant start.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11 March 2018 at 09:06, Amir E. Aharoni 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Different countries have different processes for elections: registration
>> of political parties and candidates, the form of the ballot, the system for
>> counting the votes and dividing the seats in the legislature, etc.
>>
>> I was surprised not to find almost any data about electoral history for
>> Israeli political parties. I also couldn't find it for other famous
>> political parties around the world, like CDU (Germany), Syriza (Greece), or
>> GOP (U.S.).
>>
>> Representing it in Wikidata is somewhat challenging because of the
>> differences between the countries, because parties, candidates lists, and
>> fractions are different things, etc. But only somewhat: it definitely
>> doesn't sound impossible.
>>
>> Is there any country whose electoral processes and history are
>> represented comprehensively in Wikidata? If not, were there any attempts to
>> even discuss it?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
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>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
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>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
For the majority of US states and territories  (eg Kentucky

) I have added the dates of governors holding office to Wikidata. This
information is based on lists from the English Wikipedia.  So you can
follow the transition from the different parties (do not forget parties
like the Wiggs).. When this information is complete I hope to bring this
into a query that shows the US states and territories with maps; a colour
change for the political party and a link that shows the politicians in
power at that time.

Sure there are other functions like senators, representatives lieutenant
governors.. they can be included. It is however a relevant start.
Thanks,
GerardM





On 11 March 2018 at 09:06, Amir E. Aharoni 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Different countries have different processes for elections: registration
> of political parties and candidates, the form of the ballot, the system for
> counting the votes and dividing the seats in the legislature, etc.
>
> I was surprised not to find almost any data about electoral history for
> Israeli political parties. I also couldn't find it for other famous
> political parties around the world, like CDU (Germany), Syriza (Greece), or
> GOP (U.S.).
>
> Representing it in Wikidata is somewhat challenging because of the
> differences between the countries, because parties, candidates lists, and
> fractions are different things, etc. But only somewhat: it definitely
> doesn't sound impossible.
>
> Is there any country whose electoral processes and history are represented
> comprehensively in Wikidata? If not, were there any attempts to even
> discuss it?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Election data

[Marco Neumann]

we had a go at this during the wikidatacon 2017 in Berlin.

my take away from this session is that there is indeed an emerging pattern
for representing data related to political events, organizations,
individual and themes on wikidata but that at the of the day you will have
to make your decision to accommodate localized idiosyncrasies in the data.

you can take look at the documentation here:

Well structured political data for the whole world - impossible Utopia or
Wikidata at its best by Lucy Chambers
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikidataCon_2017/Documentation

and the Politics Track:

Wikidata and Open Government (Meta)Data - A missing link?
Well structured political data for the whole world: impossible utopia, or
Wikidata at its best?
Politics Meetup


Marco

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 9:06 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Different countries have different processes for elections: registration
> of political parties and candidates, the form of the ballot, the system for
> counting the votes and dividing the seats in the legislature, etc.
>
> I was surprised not to find almost any data about electoral history for
> Israeli political parties. I also couldn't find it for other famous
> political parties around the world, like CDU (Germany), Syriza (Greece), or
> GOP (U.S.).
>
> Representing it in Wikidata is somewhat challenging because of the
> differences between the countries, because parties, candidates lists, and
> fractions are different things, etc. But only somewhat: it definitely
> doesn't sound impossible.
>
> Is there any country whose electoral processes and history are represented
> comprehensively in Wikidata? If not, were there any attempts to even
> discuss it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
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> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
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[Wikidata] Election data

[Amir E. Aharoni]

Hi,

Different countries have different processes for elections: registration of
political parties and candidates, the form of the ballot, the system for
counting the votes and dividing the seats in the legislature, etc.

I was surprised not to find almost any data about electoral history for
Israeli political parties. I also couldn't find it for other famous
political parties around the world, like CDU (Germany), Syriza (Greece), or
GOP (U.S.).

Representing it in Wikidata is somewhat challenging because of the
differences between the countries, because parties, candidates lists, and
fractions are different things, etc. But only somewhat: it definitely
doesn't sound impossible.

Is there any country whose electoral processes and history are represented
comprehensively in Wikidata? If not, were there any attempts to even
discuss it?

Thanks!

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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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