Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Marco Fossati]

Thanks for the report, Markus.
I will file it in the primary sources tool issues.
Best,

Marco


Il 28 dic 2016 3:33 PM, "Markus Kroetzsch" 
ha scritto:

Hi Marco,


On 27.12.2016 14:27, Marco Fossati wrote:

> Hi Markus and thanks for this major SQID update.
>
> On 12/16/16 13:32, Markus Kroetzsch wrote:
>
>> == Known issues ==
>>
>> * Some statements cannot be rejected in Primary Sources. This problem
>> affects both SQID and the Wikidata gadget in the same way. It seems to
>> be a bug in the PS web service, which we hope will be fixed at some
>> point.
>>
> Just to track down this, could you please point me to the corresponding
> phabricator issue?
>

I don't know if/where this is tracked so far. You can see the problem
already on Q1 if you try to reject the strange "point in time" statements
Primary Sources suggests there. The attempt to reject fails in both the PS
gadget and in SQID, as far as I recall because PS says that the rejected
statement's ID does not exist (in spite of the statement being suggested
with this ID). That's all I know.

Best,

Markus



Please note that known bugs previously filed on GitHub have been
> recently migrated to phabricator:
> https://github.com/Wikidata/primarysources/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
> Thanks,
>
> Marco
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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Markus Kroetzsch]

Hi Marco,

On 27.12.2016 14:27, Marco Fossati wrote:

Hi Markus and thanks for this major SQID update.

On 12/16/16 13:32, Markus Kroetzsch wrote:

== Known issues ==

* Some statements cannot be rejected in Primary Sources. This problem
affects both SQID and the Wikidata gadget in the same way. It seems to
be a bug in the PS web service, which we hope will be fixed at some
point.

Just to track down this, could you please point me to the corresponding
phabricator issue?


I don't know if/where this is tracked so far. You can see the problem 
already on Q1 if you try to reject the strange "point in time" 
statements Primary Sources suggests there. The attempt to reject fails 
in both the PS gadget and in SQID, as far as I recall because PS says 
that the rejected statement's ID does not exist (in spite of the 
statement being suggested with this ID). That's all I know.


Best,

Markus




Please note that known bugs previously filed on GitHub have been
recently migrated to phabricator:
https://github.com/Wikidata/primarysources/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
Thanks,

Marco

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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Marco Fossati]

Hi Markus and thanks for this major SQID update.

On 12/16/16 13:32, Markus Kroetzsch wrote:

== Known issues ==

* Some statements cannot be rejected in Primary Sources. This problem
affects both SQID and the Wikidata gadget in the same way. It seems to
be a bug in the PS web service, which we hope will be fixed at some point.
Just to track down this, could you please point me to the corresponding 
phabricator issue?
Please note that known bugs previously filed on GitHub have been 
recently migrated to phabricator:

https://github.com/Wikidata/primarysources/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
Thanks,

Marco

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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Markus Kroetzsch]

Thanks for the suggestion. We are tracking this now at

https://github.com/Wikidata/SQID/issues/108

Pull requests are welcome, since we might not get to do this immediately.

Best regards,

Markus


On 16.12.2016 23:33, Magnus Sälgö wrote:

Thanks

We have added the GPS Coordinates for graves P625
Would be nice if that was clickable to a map

See https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/view?id=Q53660



Link 
https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?language=en¶ms=59.3541_N_18.0267_E_globe:earth

or using an inline map
See https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Landquist
and template https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall:Faktamall_biografi_WD

that gives WikiMiniAtlas




Regards and thanks
Magnus Sälgö
Stockholm, Sweden




On 16 Dec 2016, at 15:07, Markus Kroetzsch
mailto:markus.kroetz...@tu-dresden.de>> wrote:

Hi Tomas, hi David,

we have not implemented this feature yet. I was not aware that it
exists. We could add this, although this might lead you to, well,
rather random entities. As it is now, you can find suggestions almost
everywhere (e.g., for most musicians you have many suggested genres).
Some more filtering would probably be helpful for people to find a
PS-suggestion for a topic they know about.

Best regards,

Markus

On 16.12.2016 14:28, Thomas Steiner wrote:

Hi Markus,

Regarding David's question, a random Primary Sources item can be
retrieved via the endpoint
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-primary-sources/entities/any.

Cheers,
Tom



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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Markus Kroetzsch]

Hi Tomas, hi David,

we have not implemented this feature yet. I was not aware that it 
exists. We could add this, although this might lead you to, well, rather 
random entities. As it is now, you can find suggestions almost 
everywhere (e.g., for most musicians you have many suggested genres). 
Some more filtering would probably be helpful for people to find a 
PS-suggestion for a topic they know about.


Best regards,

Markus

On 16.12.2016 14:28, Thomas Steiner wrote:

Hi Markus,

Regarding David's question, a random Primary Sources item can be
retrieved via the endpoint
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-primary-sources/entities/any.

Cheers,
Tom



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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Thomas Steiner]

Hi Markus,

Regarding David's question, a random Primary Sources item can be
retrieved via the endpoint
https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-primary-sources/entities/any.

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[David Cuenca Tudela]

Hi Markus,

Great tool! I have a question, how do I find the items that contain
potential statements from the Primary Sources Tool to be added to WD?

I was expecting to find a list, or a "show random item with Primary Source
statements". Maybe I am not looking at the right place?

Thanks and regards,
David

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Markus Kroetzsch <
markus.kroetz...@tu-dresden.de> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I am happy to announce that we have just deployed a new version of the
> SQID Wikidata browser at
>
> https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/
>
> The main news are the first working editing features. Users that log in
> will be given options to modify the data directly. (Regular users may have
> to hard reload the page to see the new version; it should have a "login"
> option on the top right.)
>
> == Features ==
>
> * Users can login with their Wikimedia accounts
> * Statement suggestions from Primary Sources are offered to logged in
> users, who can approve or reject them
> * Approving/rejecting statements takes immediate effect, without a slow
> page reload
> * Statement suggestions are shown in the same "smart" order used for all
> data on SQID. For example, statements with start time will be ordered by
> time so you can compare suggested data to existing data more easily.
> * There is a minimal "edit label" functionality for logged in users too
>
> We hope this can help to speed up the work of editors who want to get more
> PS data merged into Wikidata (e.g., for Freebase import).
>
> == Known issues ==
>
> * Some statements cannot be rejected in Primary Sources. This problem
> affects both SQID and the Wikidata gadget in the same way. It seems to be a
> bug in the PS web service, which we hope will be fixed at some point.
> * There is no error reporting yet -- if PS fails, the user can see that a
> requested action does not happen but errors are logged on the Javascript
> console only.
> * If many references for the same statement are suggested, they will show
> as many statements with one reference each instead. The editing
> functionality is there, but the UI needs to be improved.
> * Label editing is pretty minimal, e.g., you cannot edit descriptions yet.
> * If a suggestion (reference or additional statement value) is in a
> collapsed panel in the UI, there is no indication of it.
>
> Please report issues and requests through github:
> https://github.com/Wikidata/SQID/issues
>
> == Next steps ==
>
> * Address the open issues above (those that can be fixed in SQID)
> * Add further editing controls (e.g., direct statement deletion)
> * Add further suggestion sources
>
>
> == Acks ==
>
> This implementation was mainly done by Michael Günther. Many thanks are
> also due to Magnus, whose Widar service for editing Wikidata is used to
> make the actual changes in the back (so edits will get a Widar tag in
> Wikidata's history).
>
> As usual, feedback is welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Markus
>
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[Wikidata] SQID now supports PrimarySources

[Markus Kroetzsch]

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that we have just deployed a new version of the 
SQID Wikidata browser at


https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/

The main news are the first working editing features. Users that log in 
will be given options to modify the data directly. (Regular users may 
have to hard reload the page to see the new version; it should have a 
"login" option on the top right.)


== Features ==

* Users can login with their Wikimedia accounts
* Statement suggestions from Primary Sources are offered to logged in 
users, who can approve or reject them
* Approving/rejecting statements takes immediate effect, without a slow 
page reload
* Statement suggestions are shown in the same "smart" order used for all 
data on SQID. For example, statements with start time will be ordered by 
time so you can compare suggested data to existing data more easily.

* There is a minimal "edit label" functionality for logged in users too

We hope this can help to speed up the work of editors who want to get 
more PS data merged into Wikidata (e.g., for Freebase import).


== Known issues ==

* Some statements cannot be rejected in Primary Sources. This problem 
affects both SQID and the Wikidata gadget in the same way. It seems to 
be a bug in the PS web service, which we hope will be fixed at some point.
* There is no error reporting yet -- if PS fails, the user can see that 
a requested action does not happen but errors are logged on the 
Javascript console only.
* If many references for the same statement are suggested, they will 
show as many statements with one reference each instead. The editing 
functionality is there, but the UI needs to be improved.

* Label editing is pretty minimal, e.g., you cannot edit descriptions yet.
* If a suggestion (reference or additional statement value) is in a 
collapsed panel in the UI, there is no indication of it.


Please report issues and requests through github: 
https://github.com/Wikidata/SQID/issues


== Next steps ==

* Address the open issues above (those that can be fixed in SQID)
* Add further editing controls (e.g., direct statement deletion)
* Add further suggestion sources


== Acks ==

This implementation was mainly done by Michael Günther. Many thanks are 
also due to Magnus, whose Widar service for editing Wikidata is used to 
make the actual changes in the back (so edits will get a Widar tag in 
Wikidata's history).


As usual, feedback is welcome.

Cheers,

Markus

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Knowledge-Based Systems Group
Center for Advancing Electronics Dresden (cfaed)
Faculty of Computer Science
TU Dresden
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