Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-03-31 Thread Magnus Manske 
I suppose Gerard means this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Wdsearch.js

Last time I checked, it was enabled by default for everyone on it.wp.

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 3:58 PM Thad Guidry  wrote:

> Hi Gerard,
>
> Can you point me to a URL that describes that functionality by Magnus ?
>
> Thanks,
> -Thad
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> On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 4:54 PM Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> Thad, there has been for a long long time functionality by Magnus that
> does exactly that. I use it for instance on my en.wp profile and will find
> Valerie Sutton..
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 17 February 2017 at 23:38, Thad Guidry  wrote:
>
> Daniel & Stas,
>
> Btw, it was be AWESOME if wbsearchentites had a parameter option
> () to also list statements about an entity.
> Right now it only seems to mention a few bits of metadata and not much
> else.
>
> We had that similar parameter available in the Freebase API
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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-03-31 Thread Thad Guidry 
Hi Gerard,

Can you point me to a URL that describes that functionality by Magnus ?

Thanks,
-Thad
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 4:54 PM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Thad, there has been for a long long time functionality by Magnus that
> does exactly that. I use it for instance on my en.wp profile and will find
> Valerie Sutton..
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 17 February 2017 at 23:38, Thad Guidry  wrote:
>
> Daniel & Stas,
>
> Btw, it was be AWESOME if wbsearchentites had a parameter option
> () to also list statements about an entity.
> Right now it only seems to mention a few bits of metadata and not much
> else.
>
> We had that similar parameter available in the Freebase API
>
> -Thad
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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen 
Hoi,
Thad, there has been for a long long time functionality by Magnus that does
exactly that. I use it for instance on my en.wp profile and will find
Valerie Sutton..
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 17 February 2017 at 23:38, Thad Guidry  wrote:

> Daniel & Stas,
>
> Btw, it was be AWESOME if wbsearchentites had a parameter option
> () to also list statements about an entity.
> Right now it only seems to mention a few bits of metadata and not much
> else.
>
> We had that similar parameter available in the Freebase API
>
> -Thad
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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Thad Guidry 
Daniel & Stas,

Btw, it was be AWESOME if wbsearchentites had a parameter option
() to also list statements about an entity.
Right now it only seems to mention a few bits of metadata and not much else.

We had that similar parameter available in the Freebase API

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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Daniel Kinzler 
Am 17.02.2017 um 22:02 schrieb James Heald:
> Quick question on this Stas:
> 
> * Why do the suggestions that come up when typing in the search box seem so 
> much
> more on-point (ie better at presenting the most likely option first) than the
> ones that come up in the results list?

The reason is that the "search box" on wikidata.org is fake: it is not the
search box you see on wikipedia, it does not use the search infrastructure that
Special:Search uses (Cirrus). It uses a custom API module (wbsearchentities)
which relies on a custom database table (wb_terms). We need this because Cirrus
did not have suppor for structured data or multilingual fields. That is changing
now, and we want to use Cirrus for everything. But until then, wikidata is using
two completely different search mechanisms, both of which work well for some
things, and really badly for others.


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Wikimedia Deutschland
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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread James Heald 

Quick question on this Stas:

* Why do the suggestions that come up when typing in the search box seem 
so much more on-point (ie better at presenting the most likely option 
first) than the ones that come up in the results list?


-- eg when the search results for "cat" bring up everything *except* 
Q146 "domesticated species of feline" -- even though this was the top 
prompt in the search box?


James.


On 17/02/2017 20:24, Stas Malyshev wrote:

Hi!

On 2/17/17 12:12 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:

Thanks Stas,
So with budgets, dev, etc will Wikidata Search get much improved
this year 2017 ?  or more likely next year 2018 ?


Hopefully this year, yes. I don't have any hard time estimates but we're
working on it right now and it doesn't look like it should take more
than a year (famous last words, I know :) so 2017 looks like a sane
estimate.




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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Thad Guidry 
Great.  Thank Stas.
Then I'll wait on the Wikidata Search improvements before I commit any more
changes against OpenRefine for Wikidata Query and Reconciling integrations.

Cheers,
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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Stas Malyshev 
Hi!

On 2/17/17 12:12 PM, Thad Guidry wrote:
> Thanks Stas,
> So with budgets, dev, etc will Wikidata Search get much improved
> this year 2017 ?  or more likely next year 2018 ?

Hopefully this year, yes. I don't have any hard time estimates but we're
working on it right now and it doesn't look like it should take more
than a year (famous last words, I know :) so 2017 looks like a sane
estimate.

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Re: [Wikidata] Full Text Search in Query Service

2017-02-17 Thread Thad Guidry 
Thanks Stas,
So with budgets, dev, etc will Wikidata Search get much improved this
year 2017 ?  or more likely next year 2018 ?

-Thad
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