[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread GWicke 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread GWicke 
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@ori, I changed the text to clarify which of those are potential, and which are 
concrete plans for this quarter. Please follow the provided links if things are 
still unclear.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread GWicke 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread adrianheine 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T87369: Use ContentLanguages object for terms JS

2015-10-04 Thread adrianheine 
adrianheine reopened blocking task T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Reopened] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread adrianheine 
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There's much more to be done here.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T114474: More flexible and modernized Recent Changes code

2015-10-04 Thread matmarex 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T114605: Define bd: PREFIX namespace to fulfill SPARQL validators

2015-10-04 Thread nichtich 
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  This query
  
  ```
  PREFIX bd: 
  PREFIX wdt: 
  PREFIX wikibase: 
  SELECT ?q ?qLabel ?tag WHERE {
?q  ?tag .
SERVICE wikibase:label {
bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" .
}
  }
  ```
  
  results in an error unless you omit `PREFIX bd: `. 
Without this prefix definition, however, the query is no valid SPARQL (although 
blazegraph does not care). I guess the namespace  is 
wrong?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114482: [Task] Do a "clean up open pull requests on GitHub" day

2015-10-04 Thread JeroenDeDauw 
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> There are some really, really old pull requets that are just sitting there, 
> rotting and slowly dying, the worst example probably being the 
> WikibaseQueryEngine integration tests.


As we are not sure we will continue work on that component, why would we spend 
time and effort on these?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114547: Table of nuclides based on Wikidata

2015-10-04 Thread Tobias1984 
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Another question is how we identify items of isotopes. There seems to be no 
consensus how to use p31 and p279 for isotopes (Including some poorly thought 
out edits by me). Right now I would favour constructing the tree like this 
example:

  carbon-12  isotopes of carbon  isotope

But I am also open for other suggestions.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T114586: Special:NewItem redirects to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/NewItem after clicking "create" following a "already exists" message

2015-10-04 Thread matej_suchanek 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T114547: Table of nuclides based on Wikidata

2015-10-04 Thread Sjoerddebruin 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T111209: [Task] Create custom mediawiki search api module

2015-10-04 Thread aude 
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Special:Nearby has some of the same issues as mobile search, in that the title 
text (e.g. Q64) is displayed by default.  It uses geosearch as the generator 
instead of prefixsearch, but otherwise is mostly the same api call.

What we might want to do is have displaytext as a pageprop?  then it could 
easily be used in both places and be a generic thing.

though that doesn't solve the problem that prefix search doesn't find anything 
meaningful from Wikibase content.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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Change 243496 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jonas Kress (WMDE)):
Use ViewFactory for building statementviews in statementlistview

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243496


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread Jonas 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T100654: [Task] use generic composer based Jenkins jobs for WikibaseJavaScriptApi CI

2015-10-04 Thread Paladox 
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Would using the composer-test test work.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114576: [Bug] OutOfBoundsException triggered by ParserOutputDataUpdater

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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Change 243398 merged by jenkins-bot:
Fail gracefully if SiteLink not found in ParserOutputDataUpdater

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/243398


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T100654: [Task] use generic composer based Jenkins jobs for WikibaseJavaScriptApi CI

2015-10-04 Thread JanZerebecki 
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If this were a normal php composer component, that were the way to go. But this 
is a javascript library that depends on ResourceLoader packaged as a composer 
component. So its primary CI need is running qunit tests, the secondary one is 
running the tests from core that check ResourceLoader definitions which are run 
during the phpunit extension test suite. So, no I meant using the jobs 
mwext-testextension-zend-composer, mwext-testextension-hhvm-composer instead of 
their non composer variant.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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Change 243494 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jonas Kress (WMDE)):
Use ViewFactory for constructing statementlistviews in statementgroupview

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T95287: [Epic] separate identifiers from other statements

2015-10-04 Thread Multichill 
Multichill added a blocked task: T114617: Track the number of identifier 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T114617: Track the number of identifier properties on an item in page_props

2015-10-04 Thread Multichill 
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  In T95287 we'll get a new identifier datatype for properties. In the 
page_props table we track several attributes of a page like the number of 
claims (wb-claims) and the number of sitelinks (wb-sitelinks). Would be nice to 
track the number of identifier properties on an item like the number of 
sitelinks. How to count exactly I'm not sure. One option is to count the number 
of P identifiers, other option is to count the total of number of claims. If 
for some reason the same identifier property is used multiple times on an item, 
the results will differ. I would probably go for the second option (number of 
claims), because that's closer to how wb-claims counts.
  
  This page_prop could be used in a similar way as wb-sitelinks: To rank items 
and to suggest items to work on.

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2015-10-04 Thread Multichill 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T75380: [Task] Introduce factory for JS views

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T114576: [Bug] OutOfBoundsException triggered by ParserOutputDataUpdater

2015-10-04 Thread hoo 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T100654: [Task] use generic composer based Jenkins jobs for WikibaseJavaScriptApi CI

2015-10-04 Thread Paladox 
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So all that needs to be added is

mwext-testextension-zend-composer

and

mwext-testextension-hhvm-composer

test would that require a new template with both of those test or how can you 
use them in ci file since template: only works for template.


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Change 243597 had a related patch set uploaded (by Paladox):
[WikibaseJavaScriptApi] Update jenkins tests

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T100654: [Task] use generic composer based Jenkins jobs for WikibaseJavaScriptApi CI

2015-10-04 Thread gerritbot 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread GWicke 
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@Nuria, see the task description, heading "Initial use cases".


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread Nuria 
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> @Ottomata, main reason would be the ability to work with $simple_queue, 
> $binary_kafka, $amazon_queue and so on without changes in MW code. This isn't 
> so theoretical. We'll want a lighter-weight queue for testing, developers and 
> third party users rather soon.


But do we have a concrete use as of right one that this MVP can serve? It is 
hard to take decisions and asses the viability of a technical product without a 
concrete use case. How will we determine the MVP is successful if we develop it 
in a vacuum?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread ori 
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443#1701193, @GWicke wrote:

> @Nuria, see the task description, heading "Initial use cases".


Potential applications are one thing; a concise problem-statement another.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread Joe 
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Apart from the concerns on a practical use case which I agree with, I have a 
big doubt about the implementation idea:

I am in general a fan of the paradigm that it's better to beg for forgiveness 
than to ask for permission, and of Postel's robustness principle, so I don't 
really see what use a service in front of kafka would serve us, apart from 
introducing another software that could fail and some latency.

Messages we send onto kafka will be anyways verified on the receiving end 
(considering them "trusted" would be foolish), so we will need to write 
validation libraries in basically all the languages we will consume our data 
from; this is the standard way to build communications protocols and I don't 
see a good reason for introducing a level of indirection here.

So, I have two questions I'd like an answer to:

- What is the advantage of having a service validate messages before they get 
into the queue (Kafka or other doesn't really matter)
- Why building libraries that do the validations based on shared schemas not 
enough?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Status] T95329: Problematic inline script

2015-10-04 Thread Ricordisamoa 
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95329#1601552, @thiemowmde wrote:

> Since I started working on Wikibase it was going through quite some 
> iterations, e.g. the comment removed, the CSS properties moved to the 
> wikibase.css file, and finally removed in T108365: [Task] Remove 
> "wb-entity-spinner" . Technically 
> this makes this ticket invalid, not a duplicate.



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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Up For Grabs] T95329: Problematic inline script

2015-10-04 Thread Ricordisamoa 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T114443: EventBus MVP

2015-10-04 Thread Joe 
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114443#1698223, @GWicke wrote:

> @ottomata, main reason would be the ability to work with $simple_queue, 
> $binary_kafka, $amazon_queue and so on without changes in MW code. This isn't 
> so theoretical. We'll want a lighter-weight queue for testing, developers and 
> third party users rather soon.


Please note that software angosticity can be achieved via libraries as well as 
soon as you abstract the interface from the current driver implementation.

So no, this is not a reason why we should build a REST service in front of 
kafka.

Writing high quality, standardized libraries in php, nodejs and python (at 
least) will be needed anyways, and I suspect strongly that not tying ourselves 
to an HTTP-based paradigm will allow us to do more in the future if we want to 
(HTTP is _not_ what I would use as a protocol if I had to design an event bus).


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