[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T105623: [Task] Investigate quantification of quantity precision (+/- 1 or +/- 0.5)

2015-10-11 Thread daniel
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@Jc3s5h Well, if we have additional information about the methods and tools 
used for the measurement, we should use them, sure. The source should state 
them, and we should record them. That's the simple case.

But the question we are trying to answer here is what to use if we have no such 
information. All we have to go by is a decimal string, and some inconclusive 
conventions about significant digits. So, what's the best for our primary use 
case, namely //rounding after unit conversion//? We could

1. assume +/-0: This will introduce spurious digits (false precision), because 
it prevents any rounding to be applied.
2. assume +/-1: This is inconsistent with the rounding algorithm we apply 
("round half away from zero"): a nominal value of 17+/-1 includes 17.9, which 
would round to 18.
3. assume +/-0.5: This is consistent with rounding, and does not lead to false 
precision. As far as I can tell, it doesn't lead to surprises.

We have a bit more freedom with our second use case, comparison during queries, 
since uncertainty and rounding are not directly visible to the user. However, 
it seems prudent to use the same approach for both cases, to avoid confusion 
and inconsistencies.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T47839: [Bug] Not all language links showing up, manual purge required

2015-10-11 Thread TTO
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T115205: Missing interwiki links

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115054: [Story] Sort statements (within property group) at least by rank, with preferred at the top and deprecated at the bottom

2015-10-11 Thread MGChecker
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T108825: [Task] Enable phase 1 for Meta-Wiki

2015-10-11 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T109674: [Story] Integrate Wikidata and Wikispecies

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108825: [Task] Enable phase 1 for Meta-Wiki

2015-10-11 Thread Romaine
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This seems great news!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115064: Some of the client edit summaries are overwhelming and quite long

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Retitled] T74126: [Story] Monolingual text does not accept sr-cyrl and a number of other language codes

2015-10-11 Thread matej_suchanek
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T104749: Support dates with unknown year but known month/day

2015-10-11 Thread Nikki
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What I forgot to mention here is that it can appear like this is already 
supported, because you can enter "August 24" (for the example in the 
description), but that actually means the year 24 AD, not the 24th day of the 
month. The ticket for making that more obvious is 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104750.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Project Column] T73685: [Task] Turn mediawiki.org into a Wikidata client

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T104749: Support dates with unknown year but known month/day

2015-10-11 Thread Thibaut120094
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread hoo
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We discussed this before (and I actually tested a few compression algorithms) 
and we came to the conclusion that this was not yet needed. It might be time to 
revisit that decision (although `xz` performed way better than `bzip2` AFAIR, 
so that might also be something to consider).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T115223: Provide wikidata downloads as multiple files to make access more robust and efficient

2015-10-11 Thread NealMcB
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Currently the only download option for wikidata in json format is a single 
gzipped file (see e.g. the files under 
https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/entities/), which is 5.4 GB, 
compressed.
  
  This makes it hard to reliably get it all, or to get just a subset, or to 
obtain in parallel, or to mirror on other infrastructures which are designed to 
facilitate highly parallel downloads (e.g. clusters).   In addition, 5.4 GB is 
too large to easily get into Amazon s3, which has a 5 GB limit for many of the 
most convenient forms of upload.
  
  Note that e.g. the enwiki downloads are split into up to 128 pieces, which 
makes it much easier to process.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread Halfak
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread Halfak
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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Request:** Currently the JSON dumps are compressed using gzip.  I propose 
to also provide a file compressed with bzip2. 
  
  **Reason:** I've been working with people who would like to process WikiData 
stuff in Hadoop/Spark.  Inside of that environment, bzip2 is better supported 
than gzip because of the block compression strategy that it uses.  Currently, 
we need to recompress json dumps in order to take full advantage of these 
distributed processing frameworks.  It would be very helpful for us and our 
workflow if the dumps could be provided in a bzip2 compressed format.
  
  See 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6511255/why-cant-hadoop-split-up-a-large-text-file-and-then-compress-the-splits-using-g
 and 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14820450/best-splittable-compression-for-hadoop-input-bz2.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T115223: Provide wikidata downloads as multiple files to make access more robust and efficient

2015-10-11 Thread Halfak
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Triaged] T115223: Provide wikidata downloads as multiple files to make access more robust and efficient

2015-10-11 Thread hoo
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T96264: [Task] Add Wikidata to Jenkins job mediawiki-extensions-hhvm

2015-10-11 Thread JanZerebecki
JanZerebecki added a blocked task: T108946: [Epic] Improve the development 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T108946: [Epic] Improve the development infrastructure

2015-10-11 Thread JanZerebecki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T85358: Testing Pywikibot-Wikidata changes on non-production wikis

2015-10-11 Thread JanZerebecki
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Adding a link at least works on test.wikpedia.org but this won't add a link for 
the site the link was made from.
Example:
On https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blablabla i added 
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauskatze but this created the item 
https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1734 which links to 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blah instead of testwiki.

Yes, it seems testwiki and test2wiki have an interesting configuration.

Preferred way of testing would be unit tests that don't talk to a mediawiki 
installation.
With what I wrote in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58961#1718288 you would 
get a job with a wiki, but as Wikibase doesn't work out of the box it needs 
additional commands to configure. In addition you'd need another wiki as a 
client. So that way would be a bit more work.
For local testing against a mediawiki the wikidata vagrant role should work out 
of the box (you get a wikifarm with an additional wikibase client wiki and repo 
wiki).


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T48248: [Story] Use HTMLForm in the special pages

2015-10-11 Thread LikeLifer
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T115222: Compress JSON data dumps in Bzip2

2015-10-11 Thread Halfak
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xz does not have the nice built in support in distributed processing frameworks 
that bz2 has.

It may be worth re-iterating that I am not concerned about compression ratio.  
The purpose of this task is to make wikidata JSON dumps easy to process in 
Hadoop/Spark.

A quick reading suggests that Hadoop/Spark has no native support at all for xz.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T74126: [Story] Monolingual text does not accept sr-cyrl and a number of other language codes

2015-10-11 Thread Nikki
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Other requests I've seen:

Cape Verdean Creole (kea) at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikidata_Cape_Verdean_Creole
Finnish Swedish (sv-fi) at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team/Archive/2015/05#Finland_Swedish_.28Q1461092.29
Korean (Hanja) (ko-kore?) at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#Can_we_have_monolingual_text_in_Korean_in_Hanja_or_Hangul.3F
Koyukon (koy) at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team/Archive/2015/09#expand_UserLanguageCode_options
Lakota (lkt) at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1559#Cannot_add_a_Lakota_name
Old High German (goh) at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team/Archive/2015/09#expand_UserLanguageCode_options

Talossan was also requested at 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikidata_Talossan


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T115120: Wikidata Metrics

2015-10-11 Thread Christopher
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After researching this, I have discovered that the Munger that processes the 
RDF dump removes several ontology types (wikibase:Item, wikibase:Statement, 
wikibase:Reference, and wikibase:Value) that are needed for object counting and 
comparison.

See here 
https://github.com/wikimedia/wikidata-query-rdf/blob/master/tools/src/main/java/org/wikidata/query/rdf/tool/rdf/Munger.java,
 lines 405, 466, 514, 556.

@Smalyshev Is it possible to add an option to keep them?  And approximately how 
much additional space/memory would these use?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T54136: [Epic] Redesign Item UI for Wikidata repo

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T102759: [Story] Migrate constraints from property talk pages to statements on properties

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T102754: [Task] Take qualifier "start date" and "end date" into account for Single/Multi value constraints

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T95287: [Epic] separate identifiers from other statements in UI

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T90107: [Task] Handle constraint parameter "now"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T115120: Wikidata Metrics

2015-10-11 Thread Smalyshev
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It is possible, but I don't think it is a good idea for the service as we run 
it, since it would just consume space/memory and we don't use them much. Still, 
for standalone installation it may be a valid choice. @Christopher, could you 
create a separate ticket for that functionality and assign it to me?


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