[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC

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  Possibly related to: T187935  
"Allow cross-slot access during HTML rendering"

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC

[Jheald]

Jheald renamed this task from "When looking at an old revision of a Commons 
file page, it should be render the old version of the wikitext (including 
templates) acting on the old version of the SDC" to "When looking at an old 
revision of a Commons file page, it should render the old version of the 
wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the SDC".

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313171: When looking at an old revision of a Commons file page, it should be render the old version of the wikitext (including templates) acting on the old version of the

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  As a user, when I look at an old revision of a file page on Commons, I want 
to see a representation of the SDC as it was at the time of the old revision, 
filtered through the templates that were in the wikitext at the time of the old 
revision.
  
  At the moment this is not happening.
  
  For example here is a Commons file 

 with a description page that generated almost entirely from SDC by the 
`{{Geograph from structured data}}` template.  At the time of the first 
revision 

 the file had no SDC statements; these were then added one by one (as confirmed 
by the history 
).
  However, when one looks at the the first revision 
,
 the rendering that is presented does not reflect the SDC as it was at the time 
of that first revision.  Instead the template is rendered on the basis of the 
SDC as it is //now//.  This entirely fails to represent the the file 
information as it was at the time of the revision selected.
  
  An important aspect of a wiki is the ability to "roll back time", to see a 
representation of a page as it was at the time of some revision in the past, 
and to understand the effect of revisions made since.
  
  It is understood that the representation of the past is only approximate (for 
example templates are expanded as they are at the present, not as they were 
then) -- but one still gets a fair impression of the state of the information 
on the page as it was.  But at the moment for file pages this is not possible.  
At the moment one cannot choose a revision and see a representation (not even 
an approximate one) of the SDC as it was at the time of that revision, as 
filtered through the wikitext as it was at the time of the revision.  Fixing 
this is essential for the page-history to serve a useful purpose.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262837: SDC statements should record entity usage for wikidata entities used in statements

[Jheald]

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  As noted at Data Quality only workshop last weekend, this lack of 
registration is also causes a problem for the community with the deletion 
discussion process on wikidata, as (unlike usage in wikidata statements), there 
is no warning given when an item being considered for deletion on wikidata is 
being referenced by SDC statements.
  
  This can (and increasingly has) lead to items being deleted on wikidata 
because nobody realised they were in use by and needed by Commons.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

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  Change 814320 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseMediaInfo@REL1_35] tests: Set as broken
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/814320

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313166: new Lexeme creation page uses a font different from the rest of the side

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  @Sarai-WMDE Could you please have a look? Was this intentional?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T313166: new Lexeme creation page uses a font different from the rest of the side

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  **Problem:**
  The Special:NewLexemeAlpha page uses a font different from the rest of 
Wikidata. Feedback from testing says it should not.
  
  **Acceptance criteria:**
  
  -
  
  **Open questions:**

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T306358: InvalidArgumentException: WikiPage constructed on a Title that cannot exist as a page: Special:NewEntitySchema (NewEntitySchemaTest::testNewSchemaIsNotCreatedWhenB

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T306358: InvalidArgumentException: WikiPage constructed on a Title that cannot exist as a page: Special:NewEntitySchema (NewEntitySchemaTest::testNewSchemaIsNotCreatedWhenB

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  Change 814321 had a related patch set uploaded (by Umherirrender; author: 
Jakob):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/EntitySchema@REL1_38] Add quick fix for special page 
permission check
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/814321

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

[Umherirrender]

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  I have just disabled the tests, after there are so much duplicates. The 
handling of fake uploads gets much better in newer releases (due to fix of 
T48163 )

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

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  Change 814320 had a related patch set uploaded (by Umherirrender; author: 
Umherirrender):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseMediaInfo@REL1_35] tests: Set as broken
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/814320

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

[Umherirrender]

Umherirrender merged a task: T289326: 
Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\StatementsTest::testEditStatements fails 
on REL1_35.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

[Umherirrender]

Umherirrender merged a task: T283535: 
Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\WatchlistTest::testWatchlist test failure 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

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Umherirrender merged a task: T294238: ApiUsageException: The file you submitted 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T311640: Wikibase\MediaInfo\Tests\Integration\MultiLingualCaptionsTest::testEditCaptions test failure on REL1_35

[Umherirrender]

Umherirrender merged a task: T313160: WikibaseMediaInfo fail in REL1_35.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T236593: Cannot enter multiple forms for the same language variant

[Ijon]

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  @AGutman-WMF - yes, I think your approach makes sense.  It would be good to 
auto-suggest those custom language codes in data-entry.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T236593: Cannot enter multiple forms for the same language variant

[Ijon]

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  @daniel - this would work very well for Hebrew, for example, where the two 
orthographies have a formal name known to all speakers, but less well when the 
variations are due to lack of standardization, as in the Bangla case mentioned 
by @Mahir256.

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