[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T76232: [Story] nudge when editing a statement to check reference
Snipre added a comment. @ArthurPSmith The only point I would agree with your comment is the case of redirection in case of merging. Even for the addition of end date qualifier I would not accept a change without a modificaiton of the reference: this piece of informetion requires a reference too and was not present in th eoriginal source (the normal case). So this is wrong to add a new information using a reference not mentioning it. We can still discuss about the modification of the reference section because very few contributors are correctly adding reference data. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76232 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Marsupium, Darwinius, ArthurPSmith, Moebeus, Jc86035, Snipre, Aklapper, thiemowmde, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, darthmon_wmde, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T76232: [Story] nudge when editing a statement to check reference
Snipre added a comment. Nudging is not sufficient: no saving should be possible after the change of statement value if no changes are done in the reference section. Most of the references used "retrieved" property as part of the reference so this property has to be updated for each change of the value. The obligation of changing the reference when changing the value is a key point in vandalism prevention. First this implies several modifications so lazy vandals won't be interested and then several modifications can increase the detection of the change and increase the probability of a check. The best solution would be the impossibility to change a statement once published. This rule would have a real impact as WD reliability improvement, as people can trust data imported from authoritarive sources by reliable contributors. Using filters based on sources or import dates, it would be possible to always the same data, so if the data was checked once this allows a trust for the future without a permanent monitoring of item's modifications. Vandals can add wrong statements or even delete true statements, the choice of displaying one WD data in WP will always be respected.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76232EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SnipreCc: Snipre, Aklapper, thiemowmde, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Slowvote] [Commented On] V8: Should Wikidata Query Service SPARQL endpoint be cached by default?
Snipre added a comment. If there is a way to use uncatched data there is no reason to not optimize ressources. Documentation about caching duration should be clearly displayed. SLOWVOTE DESCRIPTION With raising usage for Wikidata we need to have a solution for caching SPARQL query results. Which should be the default mode for SPARQL endpoint? See also: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126730 SLOWVOTE DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/V8 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev, Snipre Cc: Snipre, nichtich, Bene, Yurik, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Manybubbles ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108807: [Story] Edit summary for unit changes
Snipre added a comment. @Jonas. Shoudn't we have something like 'from to meter' or '' from meter to km' ? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108807 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jonas, daniel, Snipre, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, AmaryllisGardener, DSGalaktos, Sylvain_WMFr, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, Tobias1984, jeblad, Filceolaire, Smalyshev, JanZerebecki, Izno, Lucie, -jem-, Wolfvoll, Luke081515, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, Mbch331, matej_suchanek, Darkdadaah, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Malyacko ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108807: Edit summary for unit changes
Snipre added a comment. @Lydia. From my point of view we should constraint the change of the unit with a change of the value (and vice versa) in ordert to reduce vandalism. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108807 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jonas, daniel, Snipre, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, AmaryllisGardener, DSGalaktos, Sylvain_WMFr, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, Tobias1984, jeblad, Filceolaire, Smalyshev, JanZerebecki, Izno, Lucie, -jem-, Wolfvoll, Luke081515, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, Mbch331, matej_suchanek, Darkdadaah, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Malyacko ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T108807: Edit summary for unit changes
Snipre added a comment. @Jonas. Can you give more details please ? So someone adds a value with a unit and saves the edit. So you want to have a special edit summary if someone changes the saved data by modifying the unit only ? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108807 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Jonas, daniel, Snipre, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, AmaryllisGardener, DSGalaktos, Sylvain_WMFr, Ricordisamoa, Kelson, Tobias1984, jeblad, Filceolaire, Smalyshev, JanZerebecki, Izno, Lucie, -jem-, Wolfvoll, Luke081515, Mike_Peel, Jc3s5h, Mbch331, matej_suchanek, Darkdadaah, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Malyacko ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T77982: Decide on implementation of Unit Selector widget
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T100786: Deploy arbitrary access to s3 wikis (part 1, aawiki - lvwiki) + frwiki + jawiki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T77982: Decide on implementation of Unit Selector widget
Snipre added a comment. @Snaterlicious. If you take account of the uncertainty, the copy-paste is not more so important: value + uncertainty + unit, I don't know if any copy-paste will respect the same interval between the different elements, if the symbol for uncertainty will be recognized, do we need to handle the scientific notation, TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77982 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher, Snipre Cc: Jc3s5h, Yair_rand, Micru, Ricordisamoa, Bene, Lydia_Pintscher, Snipre, thiemowmde, Tobi_WMDE_SW, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, Aklapper, daniel, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Malyacko ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T86528: RFC: Unit Localization
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T105321: AuthorityControl gadget always uses globe=earth
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T58715: Formatter and parser for QuantityValue should support explicite bounds
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T58715: Formatter and parser for QuantityValue should support explicite bounds
Snipre added a comment. Uncertainty should be described by a set of parameters: lower and upper bounds (not always similar), absolute or relative value and the calculation method. So we need 4 parameters to be able to specify correctly an uncertainty value. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58715 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Snipre, Wikidata-bugs, Tobi_WMDE_SW, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T92380: Implement (dumb) formatter for quantities with units based on URIs
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T92380: Implement (dumb) formatter for quantities with units based on URIs
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T86517: add a new datatype for multilingual text
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T100786: Deploy arbitrary access to s3 wikis (part 1, aawiki - lvwiki) + frwiki + jawiki
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T76229: create demo infoboxes
Snipre added a comment. Some examples already exists and they are some users who can write some infoboxes based on lua and using WD. But the main questions is to define good practice in coding and espacially to avoid bad codes (too long, too many requests,...) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T76229 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: putnik, Prod, Ainali, HenkvD, ValterVB, Snipre, Liuxinyu970226, Lydia_Pintscher, hoo, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T78006: Determine list of available languages in a uniform way
Snipre added a comment. Just find this list for variation of metalanguage: http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78006 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Wikidata-bugs, Snipre Cc: Wikidata-bugs, jeblad, thiemowmde, jayvdb, JanZerebecki, adrianheine, Aklapper, Snipre, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T77982: Implement Unit Selector widget
Snipre added a comment. @thiemowmde. The list will be very long: we have to think a way to avoid scrolling dozen of units to find the correct one. One possibility will be to have for each contributor a personal list which can be uploaded from a personal page like user:User/common.js. The widget compares then the selected value with the official and complete list of units maintained by the dev team (or somebody else) and if there is a match, proceeds to the next step. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77982 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Snipre Cc: Snipre, thiemowmde, Tobi_WMDE_SW, adrianheine, Snaterlicious, Aklapper, daniel, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T77981: QuantityValueParser: Allow unit to be specified via options
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T86181: Make list of available languages uniform
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T77982: Implement Unit Selector widget
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T77983: Localization of units in QuantityValueFormatter
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T77983: Localization of units in QuantityValueFormatter
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T76229: create demo infoboxes
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T77977: Unit support (tracking)
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T78006: Determine list of available languages in a uniform way
Snipre added a subscriber: Snipre. Snipre added a comment. We need as starting list of language the languages defined by the ISO 639-3 norm. The best is to sort the list with the three-letter alphabetic codes and then to give the name of the languages in the language of the user. It is very difficult to choose the correct language when it is labelled in original alphabet like 中文（简体） or 中文（繁體）. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78006 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Wikidata-bugs, Snipre Cc: Aklapper, thiemowmde, JanZerebecki, Lydia_Pintscher, jeblad, daniel, Snipre, Wikidata-bugs, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T65722: Basic support for units in quantity datatype
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T72205: Mono-lingual text datatype should support no linguistic content and undetermined language
Snipre added a comment. If we can discuss about the necessity to have no linguistic content (ISO 639-2 : zxx) which can be described with the string datatype, we need the undetermined (ISO 639-2 : und). TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T72205 REPLY HANDLER ACTIONS Reply to comment or attach files, or !close, !claim, !unsubscribe or !assign username. To: Snipre Cc: Lydia_Pintscher, Bene, daniel, Wikidata-bugs, Liuxinyu970226, Snipre, aude ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T49930: allow accessing data from an item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking)
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T49930: allow accessing data from an item not connected to the current page - arbitrary access (tracking)
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T54385: Query by one property and one value (tracking)
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed CC] T54385: Query by one property and one value (tracking)
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