[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-16 Thread Christopher
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@Addshore yes, I will just create a separate remote download set function and 
point it at your sources so that we can use both local and remote data.

One thing to note (particular to Dygraphs) is that the order of the columns in 
the datasource matters.  The first column is the one that appears first in the 
legend (or on the bottom for stacked).  So, if we are shooting for consistency 
with the Magnus graphs, this is worth considering in your scripts.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-16 Thread Addshore
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After further discussion with @Milimetric I think Dashiki might be the way 
forward with some / all of this.
And yet again I may now not end up trying to use limn


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-15 Thread Addshore
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Well, after speaking with nuria in #wikimedia-analytics it looks like limn 
isn't really used any more apparently?
SO maybe we wont move forward with this
bah, such confusion!


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-15 Thread Nuria
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Wait, one thing is limn, other (i know, confusing) the limn-data repositories.
those are not tied to limn necessarily, they are just poorly named.


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2015-09-15 Thread aude
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\o/


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-15 Thread Christopher
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FYI:  I am working on the dashboards and have made some progress using the 
shiny-server.  
Check out the very preliminary prototype at http://wdm.wmflabs.org/wdm
The repo is here 
https://git.wikimedia.org/tree/wikidata%2Fanalytics%2Fdashboard/HEAD
@Addshore if you can generate/export the Magnus and Lydia tsv data (for 
starters) as they are being used (examples in the /data directory) and put them 
in an accessible place , this would be extremely helpful.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread aude
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where, what data?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread Addshore
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Indeed!
Some of the information can already be pulled from the dbs.
Other information will need scripts to run to collect and put in some tables in 
some other db on the analytics cluster.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread aude
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so, we make one of https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Data/Dashboards ? 
looks somewhat straightforward to do


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2015-09-14 Thread aude
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hmmm... no idea what that is but ok. replacing a spreadsheet sounds good :)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread Addshore
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Initially looking to replace the "Wikidata community engagement tracking" 
spreadsheet.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread JanZerebecki
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What type of repo are we talking about here?


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread Addshore
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Indeed.

We would need somewhere that runs scripts to pull data and store in some sql 
tables somewhere on the analytics cluster.
Then this repo would contain the stuff to read from those repos and make the 
limn graphs


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread JanZerebecki
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Ah this: 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards#Make_repository_for_queries_and_configuration


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread aude
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@JanZerebecki that's one of the reasons I am asking. I would like to proceed 
with getting that done. :)


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T112506: Dashboard repository for limn-wikidata-data

2015-09-14 Thread Christopher
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@JanZerebecki It would nice to consolidate the post-processed "ready to use" 
export data sets in a single directory that can be accessed by different 
presentation clients simply over http.  Like here 
http://datasets.wikimedia.org/aggregate-datasets/{wikidata} for example.

I highly recommend enabling simple REST access to the data rather than having 
to use SQL to get values for analytics presentation.


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2015-09-14 Thread JanZerebecki
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https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Analytics/Dashboards also describes how it 
can contain SQL queries that get executed regularly on stat1003.eqiad.wmnet . 
But it seems the output is only stored in csv files.

So not sure if we want to adapt that to also insert in an mysql table or make 
it only read from the mysql tables we generate from a different script.

If we want to display some of that in grafana, it seems fairly easy to also put 
the values into graphite: 
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Graphite#Record_data


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2015-09-14 Thread JanZerebecki
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Yes that would be what the csv/tsv files are for, I was in no way suggesting 
not to create them.


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