[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-06-06 Thread RobLa-WMF
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  @Daniel, my understanding from our previous conversations (and discussions 
about a new column on the https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom-rfc/ 
board) is that this is "on track".  As of right now, you're not waiting on 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/ for approval before continuing 
development (or understanding what next steps should be) and that everyone 
(including https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/archcom/) is happy that 
implementation is underway.  Is that a fair characterization?
  
  (//I'm asking because I was recently asked about status on this RFC//)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-05-09 Thread daniel
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  In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034#2130732, @Quiddity wrote:
  
  > As a beginner who wants to understand this better, I went looking for 
examples of each. I found these links. Please add whatever is accurate/useful, 
to the task description! Thanks.
  >
  > - Interwiki - e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki - (from 
Extension:Interwiki )
  > - SiteMatrix - e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix - 
(from Extension:SiteMatrix 
)
  
  
  It's more about the code than Special  pages. The first thing to be 
refactored would be 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/classInterwiki.html#details
  
  SiteMatrix also provides an API that is relevant: 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=help=sitematrix
  
  > (I'm not sure about these 2...)
  > 
  > - SiteStore - e.g. (??) - (from ? 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/SiteStore_8php.html ?)
  
  Yes, that thing, but more relevantly, it's DB based implementation: 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/DBSiteStore_8php.html
  
  > - WikiMap - e.g. (this? 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/URL_shortener/WikiMap ?) - 
(from ??)
  
  No, this here: 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/classWikiMap.html

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-05-09 Thread daniel
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  In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113034#2272983, @MarcoAurelio wrote:
  
  > Does this mean that the interwiki map at Meta 
 will be disbanded?
  
  
  No. The public interfaces will stay around. Perhaps they will extended or 
slightly modified, but I at least have no plan to get rid of them.
  
  One major question we have to answer at some point though is how 
meta-information about other wikis on the same cluster (their domain, api path, 
interwiki prefix, etc) relates to the configuration of those wikis. AS far as I 
know, the SiteMatrix is currently build from looking at the configuration of 
all the wikis on the Wikimedia cluster, not from information in the interwiki 
system. I'm not clear yet on if and how the two should be integrated with each 
other.
  
  But how ever that may play out, a site matrix will be available on meta.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-05-08 Thread MarcoAurelio
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  Does this mean that the interwiki map at Meta 
 will be disbanded?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-05-04 Thread Legoktm
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/250150/ is probably the first step in 
implementing this, and I was planning to merge it by the end of this week.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-04-26 Thread gerritbot
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  Change 285018 merged by jenkins-bot:
  Introduce InterwikiTest
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285018

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-04-23 Thread gerritbot
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  Change 285018 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daniel Kinzler):
  Introduce InterwikiTest
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/285018

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T113034: RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap

2016-03-19 Thread Quiddity
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  > We currently have three systems in core that provide information about 
other sites: Interwiki, WikiMap, and SiteStore.
  
  As a beginner who wants to understand this better, I went looking for 
examples of each. I found these links. Please add whatever is accurate/useful, 
to the task description! Thanks.
  
  - Interwiki - e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki - (from 
Extension:Interwiki )
  - SiteMatrix - e.g. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix - (from 
Extension:SiteMatrix )
  
  (I'm not sure about these 2...)
  
  - SiteStore - e.g. (??) - (from ? 
https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php/SiteStore_8php.html ?)
  - WikiMap - e.g. (this? 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/URL_shortener/WikiMap ?) - 
(from ??)
  
  -
  
  > The information they provide is frequently inconsistent (between each other 
as well as between wikis)
  
  Examples of this, might also help?  
  (I tried to find some, by glance-comparisons of 3 versions of 
Special:SiteMatrix with each other, and 3 versions of Special:Interwiki with 
each other, and all seemed identical. (using meta/mediawiki/outreach))

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