[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
gerritbot added a comment. Change 286373 merged by jenkins-bot: Fix / swap order of latitude and longitude in map https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/286373 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev, gerritbot Cc: TerraCodes, thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
gerritbot added a comment. Change 286373 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jonas Kress (WMDE)): Fix / swap order of latitude and longitude in map https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/286373 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev, gerritbot Cc: TerraCodes, thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, Maathavan, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
gerritbot added a comment. Change 277927 merged by jenkins-bot: Switch coordinate order in WKT https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/277927 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: gerritbot Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
daniel added a comment. @Smalyshev ok thanks. just making sure the concern has been considered. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
Smalyshev added a comment. @daniel I'm not sure how to do this, I suspect we'd have to add coordinate system definition to every literal then and it'd not only more than triple their size and make them barely readable but require more complex parser. And I don't think I know how to do this properly without messing it up further. If somebody does I'd be happy to learn, but I'm not sure we should open this particular can of worms. Given that the long-lat order is the default, it is specifically spelled out in the and we intend to use it just like the spec says we should, I don't think we need to complicate the matters further. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
daniel added a comment. @Smalyshev what about Thiemo's suggestion to add the "optional axis terms" the spec speaks of? I have not actually read the spec in detail - would it be feasible to add something to the literal that would make it clear what the order is? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
daniel added a comment. @Smalyshev Thanks! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
Smalyshev added a comment. Added the docs. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Let's get this done. Stas has already done the announcement. Together with the change log we're fine. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
Smalyshev added a comment. @daniel excellent idea about the change log. I'll add basic log and a comment in RdfVocabulary.php about it. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
daniel added a comment. @thiemowmde I agree that the situation sucks, but the sooner we fix this, the better. We are bumping the format version included in the dumps, so clients can check for the version and change processing accordingly, if they need to handle both the old and the new serialization. We have announced the change on the Wikidata list, with no reaction so far. @Smalyshev Regarding the format version bump: We should have a change log for this. Wikibase currently doesn't have release notes (since we don't do releases). But we should at least have a basic log for this kind of change. How about adding docs/rdf-binding, with basic change notes, and (for now) links to the documentation we have online? Eventually, it should be the other way around - the online docs should come from the documentation in the code repo. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: daniel Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
Smalyshev added a comment. @thiemowmde I'm not sure what you want to add, could you provide an example? > As @daniel said, this feels like a bad, confusing idea. I am not sure I understand what exactly is bad and confusing? Established practice is to make WKT literals certain way. Everybody doing it this way. We are doing it wrong way, because I neglected to check it when implementing the format (my bad, my fault, I should not have assumed it goes certain way without actually checking). This needs to be fixed. What is confusing about it? Imagine the literals already were in the right order. Would that be confusing for you? Why? Would you request changing it to current order? Why? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Smalyshev Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T130049: Coordinate order in RDF is wrong
thiemowmde added a comment. The standard says: "If the optional AXIS terms are not present, then the default values are assumed". So is it possible to add these "optional axis terms" somehow? Can we do this instead of switching the numbers with no indication which is which? As @daniel said, this feels like a bad, confusing idea. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130049 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: thiemowmde Cc: thiemowmde, aude, gerritbot, Haasepeter, Lydia_Pintscher, M.schmidt00, mkroetzsch, daniel, Aklapper, Smalyshev, Avner, Lewizho99, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331 ___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
