[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
gerritbot added a comment. Change 302754 merged by Smalyshev: Merging from d947e8e0084ee629db9efdaa01f68d3ed662d4aa: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302754TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
gerritbot added a comment. Change 302685 merged by jenkins-bot: Change embedding link text https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302685TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
gerritbot added a comment. Change 302685 had a related patch set uploaded (by Jonas Kress (WMDE)): Change embedding link text https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/302685TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jonas added a comment. »edit on query.wikidata.org«TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JonasCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. After talking to @Jonas : suggesting »edit this on query.wikidata.org« as linktext. Required for this is, that the query is run when the user visits the query, so the familiar visualization from the embedded view is visible, otherwise clicking on »do something with that what you see here« and than seeing nothing familiar is irritating.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher: "Edit" or would be ambiguous, users might not know what a query is and expect they can edit the underlying data or change the color of the graph etc. @Jonas: We can to that; I'm a bit unsure about the hover *if* the functions are essential (findability)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jonas added a comment. We could have a toolbar like plot.ly that appears on hover. We may want to add more functionality there in the future like switching result views or controls from timeline and graph.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JonasCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. How about just an edit icon and the Wikidata logo?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. We tried some different ways – what about »created with the QueryService by Wikidata [WD Logo goes here]«? Alternatively: »See how this was created« We also had wordings like: "Edit Query" (but that is not very good for users who don't know about querys) or "customize results" (But this sets the expectation of editing what is shown directly, not the query that generated it)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. In T138766#2447663, @Jan_Dittrich wrote: They don't make the connection that this will lead them to a query and so on. I suppose we can improve this. Partly users may not be interested in making this connection though, since the widget is already pretty useful in itself. So we should make it easy to understand that the data in the widget was generated by a query and that one can edit this query but it should not be obtrusive for those who are currently not interested in queries. Yes it shouldn't be too in your face. But people are starting to share the embedded view on Twitter for example and then get questions what the underlying query is.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Please keep in mind that the embedded view is not just used in the easyquery gadget but should be used on other websites outside Wikimedia as well.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. They don't make the connection that this will lead them to a query and so on. I suppose we can improve this. Partly users may not be interested in making this connection though, since the widget is already pretty useful in itself. So we should make it easy to understand that the data in the widget was generated by a query and that one can edit this query but it should not be obtrusive for those who are currently not interested in queries.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Charlie_WMDE, Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Yeah. People don't perceive this link right now it seems. They don't make the connection that this will lead them to a query and so on.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, codynguyen1116, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138766: [Story] highlight Wikidata and query editing in embedded query result view
Jonas added a comment. There is already a link on the bottom, but we could make it more obvious. F4261832: pasted_fileTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138766EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JonasCc: Jan_Dittrich, Jonas, Aklapper, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Xmlizer, Izno, jkroll, Smalyshev, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
