[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-24 Thread Jdlrobson
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It's definitely a concern to be thinking about. Showing an edit link in Wikipedia will drive traffic there.

If we implemented this we'd need to make sure


it's configurable so can be shut off if and when needed
We should make this logged in only to start with
We could only show this to a sample of users to get a sense of the impact of vandalism this might cause.


On long term if we do find this to be a problem we should explore ways to help editors curate this and limit the vandalism that can occur.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4kt, JdlrobsonCc: Sjoerddebruin, Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-24 Thread JKatzWMF
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@Sjoerddebruin thanks for your comment!  The short answer to your question is that we don't know for sure, but maybe describing our thought process will be helpful and I am curious to hear your perspective.

The thought was that the ratio of visibility to editability of wikidata descriptions is becoming skewed, potentially leading towards a higher incentive and higher rate of vandalism.  A savvy vandal could change wikidata and it would appear on wikipedia mobile search results and (soon) under every article title (as described here), but the average editor might not know how to revert it.  From a philosophical perspective, there is also the principle that there shouldn't be anything in the article without at least a direct path to editing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMFCc: Sjoerddebruin, Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-24 Thread Sjoerddebruin
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As a Wikidata editor, I would like to say that we already got a lot of description vandalism. What kind of influence will this have?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4kt, SjoerddebruinCc: Sjoerddebruin, Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-16 Thread Jdlrobson
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In T141230#2555431, @dr0ptp4kt wrote:
@Jdlrobson, are you saying the link from within the MobileFrontend _javascript_-based editor like in the mock is about a 1 pointer?


Not quite 1 but in that ball park given it's just a link to another page - although we should be careful to ensure the user knows they will leave the editor and go to an external site. I see this as a design problem.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4kt, JdlrobsonCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-15 Thread Nirzar
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@Jdlrobson also notice the article title being formatted differently on a grey background to indicate that it's not editable. so again, separation of chrome and contentTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4kt, NirzarCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T141230: On mobile web, allow editors to be directed to Wikidata descriptions page via Wikitext editor

2016-08-15 Thread dr0ptp4kt
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@Jdlrobson, are you saying the link from within the MobileFrontend _javascript_-based editor like in the mock is about a 1 pointer?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141230EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: dr0ptp4ktCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Jdlrobson, Aklapper, dr0ptp4kt, JKatzWMF, Nirzar, Moushira, Winter, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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