[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142093: Decide how to do usage tracking for strings used to lookup entities (page titles, external ids, …)
hoo added a comment. @Rical I still don't fully get your proposal. I don't think this should be part of this ticket, but rather be an own ticket, as I don't think this is crucial for concluding this specific RfC.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142093EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: hooCc: Base, Rical, daniel, Lucie, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, fbstj, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142093: Decide how to do usage tracking for strings used to lookup entities (page titles, external ids, …)
Rical added a comment.
Track is detect, record and search new titles to track.
Detect could be : search in wikitext templates {{property}} or some other.
Detect also direct links to wikibase from included modules in resulting wikitext.
Detect also the use of mw.wikibase.getEntity inside included modules. That does not give an exact link, only a probable invocation.
Record is proposed in task and near the end of my previous edit.
Search new titles is the main part of my previous edit.
All that is only a start point. Do you think that is enougth explicit and feasable for further development?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142093EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RicalCc: Base, Rical, daniel, Lucie, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, fbstj, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142093: Decide how to do usage tracking for strings used to lookup entities (page titles, external ids, …)
hoo added a comment. @Rical: I don't fully get your comments. They seem to be unrelated for the issue at hand: Decide how to track strings that are used to select entities (1:1 relation). Could you please open a new bug and add more information about the problem you are trying to solve? You might also want to delete the comments here, as they are off topic for this specific RfC.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142093EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: hooCc: Rical, daniel, Lucie, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, fbstj, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142093: Decide how to do usage tracking for strings used to lookup entities (page titles, external ids, …)
Rical added a comment. I just edited the before "Long term stability" proposition.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142093EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RicalCc: Rical, daniel, Lucie, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, fbstj, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T142093: Decide how to do usage tracking for strings used to lookup entities (page titles, external ids, …)
Rical added a comment. Exemple of automatic extension from a link between a wiki title and a wikibase entity: One template or one module initiates an initial link when it give a first entity id, in one wiki project, in one language. Then a reverse link can start from this entity to other modules in pages with the same title in the same wiki project. Then the same link can start from this entity to any pages with the same title in other wiki projects in the same language. Then the same link can start from translations of this entity in the same wiki projects in other languages. Of course all that need some cautions: Each reverse link can start only some days after initial link, in case of revert. Several initial link can accelerate a reverse link. Some modules can link to other entities by arbitrary acces and must not disturb the stability. That could also happen in titles where there are 2 linked entities like famous father and son. Voluntary registered links confirmations seems necessary to solve any complex cases. Long term stability: When domains of stability are confirmed by large acceptations, initial link can desappear. At any time and anywhere a divergent link can appear and must be accepted. TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T142093EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: RicalCc: Rical, daniel, Lucie, aude, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, hoo, D3r1ck01, Izno, Luke081515, Wikidata-bugs, fbstj, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
