[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
Smalyshev added a comment. So, whenever RESTbase serves a URL, it has to know which key(s) to should put into the header. But restbase doesn't serve wikidata URLs, does it? I don't see a way to do any of this with the existing CdnCacheUpdate interface. Well, this interface and adjacent ones like getCacheableUrls() used in EntityDataRequestHandler.php are now being used when we wanted to purge all resource's dependent pages. Now we'll do it via xkeys, so I wonder how. Will we drop support for getCacheableUrls()? Replace it with some other API? we support only one kind of resource that things can depend on: page content, identified by a title I.e. the key would be page title? That works, but we'd need to define encoding - urlencodes, space vs. _, etc. (and I wonder if we need to also consider language variants here). Otherwise the design sounds good, but I think while we're using the title, we should not create dependencies on it being actual title (if possible), so later if we want other keys we could add them.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SmalyshevCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
daniel added a comment. In T152425#2851064, @Smalyshev wrote: Not sure I get this part - right now as far as I can see purges are managed by CdnCacheUpdate which gets a bunch of URLs. This will no longer be the case when we use xkey throughout the system. CdnCacheUpdate would then purge a key (or a list of keys), nut URLs. Instead, when serving the content of the URLs, we have to unclude the key in the response, so we can later use it for purging. So, whenever RESTbase serves a URL, it has to know which key(s) to should put into the header. That's conceptually the same as declaring which resources (keys) your response depends on. I don't see a way to do any of this with the existing CdnCacheUpdate interface. That's why I said Since purging based on tags is quite different from purging based on URIs, it's not easy to invent a nice service interface for this. My current Idea is that for now, we support only one kind of resource that things can depend on: page content, identified by a title. When purging, we tell the CDN manager what title we want to purge. It can then purge a key, or determine a list of URLs to purge - that would be encapsulated in the service that knows about the capabilities of the CDN. When serving a cacheable resources, we'd tell the same service which resources (titles) our response depends on, and give it the opportunity to add any information it needs to the HTTP response.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Smalyshev, danielCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
daniel added a comment. @Smalyshev is it intentional that this is now assigned to you? Or was this copied from the parent task? I'd like to at least be involved in designing the service interface we need for this in core.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Smalyshev, danielCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
daniel added a comment. @Smalyshev is it intentional that this is now assigned to you? Or was this copied from the parent task? I'd like to at least be involved in designing the service interface we need for this in core.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Smalyshev, danielCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
daniel added a comment. I plan to introduce such infrastructure into core, modeled around this use case and the per-language-url use case. I have some ideas, but I'm not yet sure what exactly it will look like. As to RESTbase: once MediaWiki sends out xkey purges, all RESTbase needs to do is to tag responses with the appropriate xkey headers. MW and RB need to agree on the keys (resource URIs), but that's it.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Smalyshev, danielCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T152425: Use varnish xkey to purge output of Special:EntityData when appropriate
Smalyshev added a comment. Do we have/plan to have some structure/API for introducing xkey tags into the response? Also, do we have support from restbase/cache purging code in purgeWebCache() for xkeys?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152425EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SmalyshevCc: tstarling, Smalyshev, hoo, BBlack, Lydia_Pintscher, Aklapper, daniel, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
