[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

[Aklapper]

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  In T159216#4593462 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > Lots of these tasks about the hackathon doc sprint for 2017 still seem to 
be hanging around. Can some of them be cleaned up? Perhaps we just need to 
remove the link to the hackathon if we still need to do these? Or are they done?
  
  @johl: Could you please answer this? ^^ Thanks!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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Lots of these tasks about the hackathon doc sprint for 2017 still seem to be hanging around. Can some of them be cleaned up? Perhaps we just need to remove the link to the hackathon if we still need to do these? Or are they done?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159216EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: johl, AddshoreCc: Addshore, PKM, Crang115, Trizek-WMF, Rfarrand, waldyrious, Spinster, BrillLyle, Daniel_Mietchen, Quiddity, Multichill, Pigsonthewing, Aklapper, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Ivana_Isadora, Jayprakash12345, QZanden, LawExplorer, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, srodlund, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Tobias1984, Dinoguy1000, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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How about this for a start, replacing the text in the 'Getting Involved' block on the Wikidata homepage?

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Hello! Just letting you know that you can schedule this session now for the hackathon. Instructions and scheduling can be done here: 
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I have experience creating short demo videos about Wikidata. Will bring my recording equipment to the hackathon (= my laptop and headphones with integrated microphone).

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Here are notes from a group of people who did not know Wikidata and tried to find their
way into it on their own:
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@Quiddity : See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Documentation_sprint_for_Wikidata_during_the_Wikimedia_HackathonTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159216EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: johl, MultichillCc: Quiddity, Multichill, Pigsonthewing, Aklapper, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Puik, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Tobias1984, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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In T159216#3069189, @Multichill wrote:
I consider this important, but not in scope for a hackathon.


I think I understand why you write this (i.e. that developers should spend their valuable time together, working on the really hard problems, and not on writing beginner documentation), but if I may offer a few counterpoint thoughts:


These (3 documentation tasks) are all-day sessions, and are suitable for drop-in; so if an experienced dev wants to take a break from more complex code-oriented thinking, they can optionally do so here.
There are usually a small number of newcomer developers in attendance, plus a few experienced-editor non-developers. - These people will (a) be able to provide beginner-perspective insights (to the experienced developers) for why a documentation-change, or a feature-request, or an interface-design-change is desired, and (b) will be able to talk directly to experienced-developers in order to get technically precise summaries, that they as newcomers/non-developers can then help to document, from a beginner's perspective.
Documentation problems are so common (throughout the world, not just software!) that they rarely even get discussed in detail. These sessions will give a space for spitballing (sharing/brainstorming/etc) our collective gripes and suggestions. Some of the people who are there, might be inspired to finally fix those longstanding problems! At the very least, a detailed to-do list or options-list can be written down, and then the gritty detailed work can be done at a slower pace when everyone is back home.
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