[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of Forms
gerritbot added a comment. Change 463980 merged by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme@master] Sort Forms in FormSet based on their numeric IDs https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463980TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Ladsgroup, gerritbotCc: KaMan, gerritbot, WMDE-leszek, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Smalyshev, Pablo-WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Mringgaard, Gaboe420, A.S.Kochergin, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Lewizho99, Maathavan, JGirault, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of Forms
gerritbot added a comment. Change 463980 had a related patch set uploaded (by Ladsgroup; owner: Amir Sarabadani): [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme@master] Sort Forms in FormsView https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/463980TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: gerritbotCc: gerritbot, WMDE-leszek, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Smalyshev, Pablo-WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Nandana, Mringgaard, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, JGirault, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of Forms
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Ok let's do the first necessary fix now and switch to numerical sorting. And then we do more research around how to improve beyond that.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: WMDE-leszek, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Smalyshev, Pablo-WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Nandana, Mringgaard, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, JGirault, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of Forms
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. First fix would be getting away from alphabetical sorting of numbers I think that sorting by meaning (here: grammatical features) makes the most sense. Caveat: We need to provide a solution for the problem that adding a new form happens at the end of the list, but this is not where the form will be sorted to. This can happen via a) scrolling the page to the insertion point b) sorting after reload.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: WMDE-leszek, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Wostr, Liuxinyu970226, Smalyshev, Pablo-WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Mringgaard, A.S.Kochergin, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, JGirault, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of forms
Smalyshev added a comment. Right now the order is kind of weird - e.g. F10 follows F1. See e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L666TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SmalyshevCc: Smalyshev, Pablo-WMDE, Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of forms
daniel added a comment.
Order by grammatical feature (but how? Is that like "adverbs" are before "adjectives"? Will there be a table for the order somewhere?)
"adverb" and "adjective" are not grammatical feature, they are lexical categories. Grammatical features would be "2nd person" + "plural" + "simple past" + "progressive". There are conventions for that kind of sorting (e.g. singular before plural, 1st person before 2.d person, present before past, etc). But writing down these rules for all languages is going to be complicated. Also, this means that the order of the features would be significant, so we would have to first apply a sorting for the features of each Form ("numerus first, person second, tense third", etc), before sorting the Forms based on comparison of their grammatical features.
I believe this kind of ordering is what people expect. In terms of code, it's a bit complicated, but not horrible. In terms of maintaining the sorting rules on wiki... I have no idea how to make that nice.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: danielCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of forms
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. I believe sorting by form ID is not a good idea because the form ID does not have an inherent meaning to the user. It is just randomly assigned by when the form was added. I expect the case where someone looks up a form by its ID in the UI to be extremely rare.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of forms
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. "Create at end of list and keep it there after creation while loaded. On reload order the new item into the list properly." <- This is already happening and should be kept as it is the same behavior as for statement adding on items.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T176405: Order of forms
Jan_Dittrich added a comment. @Lydia_Pintscher @daniel please supplement.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176405EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jan_DittrichCc: Lydia_Pintscher, daniel, Aklapper, Jan_Dittrich, Cinemantique, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Darkdadaah, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
