[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Jc86035 added a comment. @Ebe123 If the developers proceed with the proposal then it would become possible to upload .mscz or .mxl files to Commons, which would resolve the issue of not being able to link to long scores on Wikidata (because it's already possible to link to Commons files). Then the problem becomes how to render the files, if at all.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jc86035Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, mb, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Ebe123 added a comment. No, because this task is primarily about Wikidata; not Commons :)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Ebe123Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, mb, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Jc86035 added a comment. I have submitted another Wishlist proposal for this year, which if implemented would partially or entirely resolve this task.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jc86035Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, mb, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Jc86035 added a comment. (I have made a minor edit to the task description to correct both my stated point of view and factual inaccuracies.)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jc86035Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, mb, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Mahir256 added a comment. In related developments, we now have a LilyPond notation property. Here's hoping that it is put to good use.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Mahir256Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Mahir256 added a comment. Thank you for your comments @Ebe123; I will see if I can get a MediaWiki instance running on my laptop so I can examine the extension myself. I have noted your points regarding new bug reports.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Mahir256Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Jc86035 added a comment. @Ebe123: We do have the most recent stable version of LilyPond; they haven't had such a release in 5 years... Oh, I actually didn't realize that when I was writing up the wishlist proposal. Sorry about that. I thought it had been updated at some point, possibly because it had been a while since I had downloaded and used LilyPond as an application, and it was updated during the time that I used it. indisputably inferior Yes, this is quite unfair in retrospect. I did have to remove some things attributable to incorrect memory from the wishlist proposal after I'd posted it, because I had essentially put everything I could think of in there to make it sort of actually have a chance to be worked on by Community Tech (although I'm not sure if that would actually have helped in the end). I think part of the problem was that I was comparing the LilyPond features available in Extension:Score directly to both the MuseScore desktop application and the MuseScore closed-source online player. It's also because I was frustrated with trying to add snippets into articles; on w:en:Double bass, I think it took me about an hour to figure out that the paper size had to be changed to resize the image, and I had to set the instrument to something else because the audio was coming out as piano. I still think it should be possible, at some point, to be able to link to full scores in their original source format; it would be nice to at least support hosting .mscz/x and/or .ly files on Commons. (Is it common for full scores to be written with LilyPond? I must admit I wasn't actually aware that people would transcribe orchestral scores in LilyPond.)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jc86035Cc: tstarling, Ebe123, Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Thanks for filing the ticket! From my side: in general fine and if we want a new datatype for it then this could be a nice student project for example. Open question: Do we want this to be on Wikidata as statements? Or on Commons to link to it? The drawback I can see for having it on Wikidata as statements would be length and licensing limitations that might not be great for this type of content. Thoughts?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lydia_PintscherCc: Lydia_Pintscher, Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198233: Create musical notation datatype(s), with rendering and maybe playback
Jc86035 added a comment. The property proposal for "LilyPond notation" currently has no opposes, so it seems likely to be created at some point.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198233EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Jc86035Cc: Liuxinyu970226, Aklapper, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith, Jc86035, Mahir256, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
