[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2019-02-04 Thread Stashbot
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Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-02-04T12:40:05Z]  Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: SWAT: [[gerrit:477522|Fix Wikidata base URI in client config (T198946)]] (duration: 00m 46s)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: StashbotCc: Tpt, Stashbot, Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, _jensen, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2019-02-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 477522 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Fix Wikidata base URI in client config

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-12-04 Thread gerritbot
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Change 477522 had a related patch set uploaded (by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE); owner: Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Fix Wikidata base URI in client config

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-11-01 Thread Jdlrobson
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This looks unblocked?
Can we move this to QA/sign off?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, JdlrobsonCc: Stashbot, Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-31 Thread gerritbot
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Change 469214 merged by jenkins-bot:
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update: add Wikimedia logo for SEO

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-29 Thread Niedzielski
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@Jdlrobson, any suggestion for who to ping on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/469214/? I'm happy to iterate on the patch if further work is needed but it's currently blocking the resolution of this card with no feedback.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread Niedzielski
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Thanks @Gilles. Patches are up.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread gerritbot
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Change 469215 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Hygiene: move SEO asset to mediawiki-config

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread gerritbot
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Change 469215 had a related patch set uploaded (by Niedzielski; owner: Stephen Niedzielski):
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Hygiene: move SEO asset to mediawiki-config

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread gerritbot
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Change 469214 had a related patch set uploaded (by Niedzielski; owner: Stephen Niedzielski):
[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Update: add Wikimedia logo for SEO

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread Gilles
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In fact there are already other Wikimedia logos in there: https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/tree/master/static/imagesTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GillesCc: Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread Gilles
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https://www.wikidata.org/extensions/Wikibase/client/assets/wikimedia.png This is a very unusual location for a static image. Was this vetted by #traffic  ? This image being consumed by bots/crawlers means a long-term commitment to that URL working. I would have expected it to be housed in /static/ where all the logos are, including wikidata's own. I.e. something like https://www.wikidata.org/static/images/project-logos/wikimedia.png or https://www.wikidata.org/static/images/wikimedia.pngTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GillesCc: Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-23 Thread Gilles
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It seems like this extra content would likely repeat strings present elsewhere in the HTML, which means that this additional content should compress well. Could you look at how much extra weight it adds to the page when gzipped on a couple of articles (big and small)? This should help put the cost into perspective.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GillesCc: Gilles, nray, Smalyshev, WMDE-leszek, Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-22 Thread gerritbot
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Change 465547 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Update: add Article schema to pages for SEO

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-18 Thread Niedzielski
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@Addshore, I wanted to thank you for your help formally on this task and general Wikidataness. I've greatly benefited from your gentle guidance :]

We talked about this work in our standup today and I also wanted to share that conversation. We have an A/B test spike that we will be working on in parallel with this task. We actually haven't done an A/B test for server rendered pages previously, hence the spike, but believe it would be very valuable to evaluate how the schema addition impacts SEO. The timeline for both this task and the A/B test is "coming soon" with our drop dead deploy date being November 15th. Given the scope, you can imagine that we're eager to complete this work much sooner, hopefully this month if at all possible.

No one on the Web team has worked in these extensions previously so any continued help you can provide would be greatly welcomed. The codebase is so well separated that it's been great to write in but we're more familiar with MediaWiki proper and less with Wikidata so further guidance is needed.

Thank you again for all of your help and patience. Between you and @cscott, I hope good things will come of this work.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: Tarrow, BBlack, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, mpopov, pmiazga, Jdrewniak, Mholloway, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Vali.matei, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Jonas, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-11 Thread Niedzielski
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@cscott, thank you very much for these references.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: Jdrewniak, Mholloway, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-11 Thread Niedzielski
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@Jdrewniak, thanks for looking into this. FWIW, @Tbayer also alluded to these mapping concerns in his comment. What do you think we should do for the many entities that do not have an equivalent class? For example, kitten is not an instance of anything but is a subclass of house cat and that has no equivalent class. Should I fallback to instance of and then to subclass of?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: Jdrewniak, Mholloway, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-11 Thread Jdrewniak
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An update (I love to nerd out on this stuff). We're not the only ones to run into this problem. There are long-standing discussions between the relation of schema.org and Wikidata. Reading through this https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Schema.org led me to this monster GitHub issue, https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/280 where I noticed the use of equivalentClass property. Turns out, for many entities, the equivalentClass property exists and actually points to a schema.org entity, see https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5398426 . I think where that property exists, we could so something like "get instanceof, and then get equivalentClass of that instanceof", and that might give us the valid schema.org @type for that entity.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, JdrewniakCc: Jdrewniak, Mholloway, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-11 Thread Jdrewniak
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@Niedzielski  @type is tricky. The @context key refers to the vocabulary used to define the structured data. The problem is that http://schema.org and http://wikidata.org are different vocabularies, so a @type defined by Wikidata may be different than one defined by schema.org. Where schema.org defined "TVSeries", Wikidata defines "Q5398426" (television series). I don't think many search-engines recognize the http://wikidata.org vocabulary, so "@context": "http://wikidata.org", is invalid. Omitting the @context key does validate the markup, but I'm not sure there's much value without it.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, JdrewniakCc: Jdrewniak, Mholloway, gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread Niedzielski
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Per discussion, I've continued with the minimal JSON-LD approach. I've uploaded a WIP with a Q number hardcoded while we figure out the linking issue subtasked. I've staged the change. It literally injects:

{"@context":"http:\/\/schema.org","name":"Show Me the Money (U.S. game show)","url":"http:\/\/readers-web-stephen.wmflabs.org\/wiki\/Show_Me_the_Money_(U.S._game_show)","sameAs":["http:\/\/readers-web-stephen.wmflabs.org\/wiki\/Q7503010"]}

Or, after pretty print and unescaping:


{
  "@context": "http://schema.org",
  "name": "Show Me the Money (U.S. game show)",
  "url": "http://readers-web-stephen.wmflabs.org/wiki/Show_Me_the_Money_(U.S._game_show)",
  "sameAs": [
"http://readers-web-stephen.wmflabs.org/wiki/Q7503010"
  ]
}


This is verbatim the recommendation provided. However, Google's structured data testing tool flags a missing @type field as an error. I think this should be "instance of" or "subclass of". I'll look into how to query this extra information next.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: NiedzielskiCc: gerritbot, Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, CucyNoiD, Nandana, NebulousIris, Gaboe420, Versusxo, Majesticalreaper22, Giuliamocci, Adrian1985, Cpaulf30, Lahi, Gq86, Baloch007, Darkminds3113, Bsandipan, Lordiis, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Chicocvenancio, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Lewizho99, Maathavan, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread gerritbot
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Change 465547 had a related patch set uploaded (by Niedzielski; owner: Stephen Niedzielski):
[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] WIP: Update: add schema

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread ovasileva
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In T198946#4651734, @phuedx wrote:

In T198946#4643217, @phuedx wrote:
As I mentioned during today's standup ritual, there's an additional component that should be taken into account when deciding how to implement this: we'd like this change to be live before the December code freeze.


I misspoke here. There is a risk, however small, that this change could negatively impact the December fundraiser (and any other campaigns before it). Consequently, we'd like this change to be live early enough that we can measure its impact, if any, and revert it if necessary.

@dr0ptp4kt mentioned that it could take longer than two weeks (20 days?) for this change to fully (?) take effect. With this in mind, we should be aiming to deploy this by the middle of October.

Of course, this is based on the premise that reverting this change will rectify any negative impact that the change had. AIUI we can't validate this premise before deploying this change.


discussed with @dr0ptp4kt today and we estimated that it would be best to have this change made by the end of October (two weeks after the initial estimate made above).  From there we will analyze the effect of the change and revert if necessary, although I feel that that is not very likely.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, ovasilevaCc: Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread ovasileva
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In T198946#4652031, @Jdlrobson wrote:
What is the rush here?
 Can we not deploy this post-fundraiser?


@Jdlrobson - we have committed to completing this before the end of the year, which basically means we need to have it live before the fundraiser.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, ovasilevaCc: Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread Jdlrobson
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What is the rush here?
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-09 Thread phuedx
phuedx added a comment.

In T198946#4643217, @phuedx wrote:
As I mentioned during today's standup ritual, there's an additional component that should be taken into account when deciding how to implement this: we'd like this change to be live before the December code freeze.


I misspoke here. There is a risk, however small, that this change could negatively impact the December fundraiser (and any other campaigns before it). Consequently, we'd like this change to be live early enough that we can measure its impact, if any, and revert it if necessary.

@dr0ptp4kt mentioned that it could take longer than two weeks (20 days?) for this change to fully (?) take effect. With this in mind, we should be aiming to deploy this by the middle of October.

Of course, this is based on the premise that reverting this change will rectify any negative impact that the change had. AIUI we can't validate this premise before deploying this change.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, phuedxCc: Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-04 Thread phuedx
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As I mentioned during today's standup ritual, there's an additional component that should be taken into account when deciding how to implement this: we'd like this change to be live before the December code freeze.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, phuedxCc: Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-03 Thread Jdlrobson
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The task is the latter (HTML meta tags). The former is Google  and JS specific but @ovasileva  should confirm.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Niedzielski, JdlrobsonCc: Denny, ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-10-03 Thread Niedzielski
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Instead of adding a _javascript_ block, we will put the tag inside the HTML.

I understand the decision was to render the annotation on the server. However, I wish to verify that the task is to inject JSON-LD script tags in PHP like @phuedx demonstrated (T198946#4554157):

...
  
...
type="application/ld+json">
{
  "@context": "http://schema.org",
  "name": "Yegor Khokhlov",
  "url": "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yegor_Khokhlov",
  "sameAs": [
"https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8051149"
  ]
}

...
  
...

Not HTML meta tags like:

...
  
...
 itemprop="name" content="Yegor Khokhlov">
 itemprop="url" content="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yegor_Khokhlov">
 itemprop="sameAs" content="https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8051149">
...
  
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-11 Thread phuedx
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Following on from @ovasileva's comment above, we (Web) also agreed that there are enough known unknowns (where the code lives and how we post-analysis requests) to warrant an estimate of 13 points.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: phuedxCc: ovasileva, Tbayer, Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-11 Thread ovasileva
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discussed during grooming.  next steps:


set up an epic that includes the development and analysis tasks, create analysis tasks - @ovasileva
set up a spike to determine where this will live - @Jdlrobson
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-06 Thread phuedx
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OTOH the Google Rich Cards extension seems to add these script tags already (without the sameAs property AFAICT).TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: phuedxCc: Elitre, CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-05 Thread Jdlrobson
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AIUI this is Wikipedia-specific functionality (improving

I see this as MediaWiki functionality that is dependent on Wikibase being present, thus Wikibase seems ideal. We'd want to improve SEO for all our wikis, right?

Relatedly, how would you feel about reaching out to WMDE about moving MobileFrontend's Wikidata description functionality to a Wikibase extension?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-05 Thread phuedx
phuedx added a comment.

In T198946#4556902, @Jdlrobson wrote:
To me, rather than creating a new extension this feels like something that should live in one of the Wikibase extensions. Can we reach out to Wikimedia DE to see where would be appropriate?


I don't disagree with this. However, AIUI this is Wikipedia-specific functionality (improving, hopefully, the search rankings of the Wikipedias) and this should be borne in mind when deciding where this lives.

Relatedly, how would you feel about reaching out to WMDE about moving MobileFrontend's Wikidata description functionality to a Wikibase extension?

I don't like the gadget approach as I think we should be building for all search engines not just google

If the intention is to deploy this change and keep it deployed regardless of whether it impacts Wikipedia's search rankings, then I agree that building a gadget is the wrong approach. However, if we're looking to test this recommendation, then building a gadget is the cheapest approach.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: phuedxCc: CKoerner_WMF, Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-04 Thread Jdlrobson
Jdlrobson added a comment.
To me, rather than creating a new extension this feels like something that should live in one of the Wikibase extensions. Can we reach out to Wikimedia DE to see where would be appropriate?
I don't like the gadget approach as I think we should be building for all search engines not just google

One thing I'm curious about.. https://schema.org/sameAs  says that the value of sameAs should point to  a "URL of a reference Web page that unambiguously indicates the item's identity. E.g. the URL of the item's Wikipedia page, Wikidata entry, or official website." so it seems a little strange that given Wikipedia is considered the authority by others, that this points somewhere else.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JdlrobsonCc: Jdlrobson, Niedzielski, phuedx, dr0ptp4kt, Imarlier, cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Chicocvenancio, QZanden, LawExplorer, Winter, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-09-04 Thread Niedzielski
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> Also, Google can read JSON-LD data when it is dynamically injected into the page's contents, such as by _javascript_ code or embedded widgets in your content management system.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T198946: Add Schema property 'sameAs' pointing to Wikidata entries

2018-07-19 Thread cscott
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This property would probably have to be added to the Parsoid-format HTML  in order to have any actual effect.  But I'm not certain how/whether Google's search pipeline for WMF projects actually does anything with our  content.  We should probably talk to our contacts at Google first and ask them specifically how to better link wikidata entries.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T198946EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: cscott, Krenair, Aklapper, Deskana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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