[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2019-07-15 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
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  \o/

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2019-07-08 Thread Thadguidry 
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  @dbarratt in the Wikibase ontology I could not find those properties in the 
OWL document returned.  Sorry, I'm getting caught up with your schema layouts 
as fast as I can :-)  I expected my parser to retrieve information about their 
description, range, domain.  I do see the class "Statement" however.

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2019-07-08 Thread dbarratt 
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  In T207168#5313628 , 
@Thadguidry wrote:
  
  > Something is amiss with these...not found.
  
  Those are URIs not URLs, they don't need to be found... or am I missing 
something?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2019-07-08 Thread Thadguidry 
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  Something is amiss with these...not found.
  
"wikibase": "http://wikiba.se/ontology#;,
"statements": {
"@id": "wikibase:statements"
},
"identifiers": {
"@id": "wikibase:identifiers"
},
"sitelinks": {
"@id": "wikibase:sitelinks"
},

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2019-07-08 Thread Stashbot 
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  Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2019-07-08T11:16:53Z] 
 Synchronized wmf-config/InitialiseSettings.php: 
[[gerrit:521221|Enable jsonld output format for wikibase entities everywhere 
(T207168 )]] (duration: 00m 49s)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2019-07-08 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 521221 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable jsonld output format for wikibase 
entities everywhere
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/521221

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2019-07-08 Thread gerritbot 
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  Change 521221 had a related patch set uploaded (by Ladsgroup; owner: 
Ladsgroup):
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable jsonld output format for wikibase 
entities everywhere
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/521221

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2019-07-04 Thread Lea_Lacroix_WMDE 
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  This should be deployed on July 11th. I'll take care of the announcement.

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2019-07-02 Thread Christopher 
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  Do you foresee any changes to the context/vocabulary/ontology in the future 
(e.g. implementing processing features of JSON-LD 1.1)?   How will context 
changes be versioned / published?
  
  Could not also the ontology  be 
dereferenceable as a json-ld context?  Then you could use @vocab to provide a 
default for the wikibase properties and types.  (e.g. "@vocab": 
"http://wikiba.se/ontology-1.0.jsonld;)

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2019-06-28 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
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  Yeah sounds good.

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2019-06-28 Thread WMDE-leszek 
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  In T207168#5290126 , 
@Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
  
  > Ok cool! Then let's go ahead.
  
  
  For the sake of the development good practices I'd insist that the same 
functionality is brought back to beta instance prior to enabling it on 
wikidata.org

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2019-06-27 Thread daniel 
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  In T207168#5290088 , @Tpt 
wrote:
  
  > @Lydia_Pintscher Improving JSON-LD structure like I proposed requires a 
strong refactoring of Purtle. I would not commit to do it anytime soon and I 
believe no one else would. So, I don't think it's a good idea to block JSON-LD 
deployment for that.
  
  
  If you look into refactoring Purtle at some point, note that many of its 
quirks are there because it has been hand optimized for speed and memory usage.

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2019-06-27 Thread Tpt 
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  @Lydia_Pintscher Improving JSON-LD structure like I proposed requires a 
strong refactoring of Purtle. I would not commit to do it anytime soon and I 
believe no one else would. So, I don't think it's a good idea to block JSON-LD 
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2019-06-27 Thread Lydia_Pintscher 
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  From my side we're ready to go to production as soon as @Tpt says his 
concerns further up have been addressed. @Tpt Care to chime in?

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2018-10-23 Thread Christopher 
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thanks, I look forward to this being deployed.  json-ld will be very useful for wikidata, particularly framing.  You might want to consider providing the context as a remote link to reduce the payloads (and "noise" in the data).   Here is that test entity, framed on the playground.  Notice how it merges the statements and references.  (sorry for the long link ...)

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2018-10-23 Thread Smalyshev 
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2018-10-23 Thread Christopher 
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according to mailing list (Wikidata Digest, Vol 83, Issue 18), this now enabled on beta.  Yet when one requests the link: https://wikidata.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:EntityData/Q64.jsonld, it does not work?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, ChristopherCc: Christopher, Salgo60, daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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2018-10-17 Thread daniel 
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@Tpt embedding will be hard to do due to the streaming nature of purtle. But let's discuss that when you file the new ticket.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, danielCc: daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread Tpt 
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So you're not really asking for a change in the JSON-LD, you're asking for wikidata to only emit a single entity on the /entity/* endpoint -- and that would/could apply to all the different representations using the purtle backend. That's not a JSON-LD specific request.

Not really, in my proposal there is still the same number of RDF resources described (in my first example at least wdata:Q64 and wd:Q64). I proposing a new Purtle feature that would allow to make use of JSON-LD embedding feature [1] and probably also of the nested rdf:Description tags of RDF/XML and the short blank node syntax of Turtle [2]. But it's indeed probably out of scope of this task. I'm going to open a new task instead.

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/#embedding
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread cscott 
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We only emit the "@graph" form in purtle if the API is used to annotate more than a single entity:  https://github.com/wikimedia/purtle/blob/master/src/JsonLdRdfWriter.php#L37

So you're not really asking for a change in the JSON-LD, you're asking for wikidata to only emit a single entity on the /entity/* endpoint -- and that would/could apply to all the different representations using the purtle backend.  That's not a JSON-LD specific request.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscottCc: daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread Tpt 
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@daniel We could do something similar for stubs. with structures like:

{

"property": {
"@id": "wd:Q64",
"label": { "@value": "Foo", "@language": "en"}
...
}

instead of

{
"@graph": [
  {
...
"property": "wd:Q64",
...
  },
  {
 "@id": "wd:Q64",
 "label": { "@value": "Foo", "@language": "en"}
  }
 ]
}

This structure may make the client processing more convenient and the structure look more like a "usual" JSON REST API.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread daniel 
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@Tpt
If I understand you correctly, structure you propose would fail if there is more than one entity, though. Which is typically indeed the case, since we return stub representations of referenced entities along with the data about the requested entity.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, danielCc: daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread Tpt 
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Not a problem but a cosmetic proposal: Instead of having the structure:

{
"@graph": [
{
"@id": "wdata:Q64",
"@type": "schema:Dataset",
"about": "wd:Q64",
...a
},
{
"@id": "wd:Q64",
"@type": "wikibase:Item",
...b
}
],
"@context": ...c
}

it would be nice to output:

{
"@id": "wdata:Q64",
"@type": "schema:Dataset",
"about": {
"@id": "wd:Q64",
"@type": "wikibase:Item",
...b
}
},
...a
"@context": ...c
}

The two structures encodes exactly the same RDF graph but the new one would allow to get the item by using the .about path instead of .@graph[1] path that is more fragile.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, TptCc: daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T207168: Provide JSON-LD support for Wikidata

2018-10-16 Thread Lea_Lacroix_WMDE 
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JsonLD is now enabled on beta, see announcementTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T207168EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: cscott, Lea_Lacroix_WMDECc: daniel, Lydia_Pintscher, Denny, Abraham, AnjaJentzsch, Aklapper, intracer, Liuxinyu970226, cscott, PokestarFan, gerritbot, Prtksxna, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Tpt, thiemowmde, Multichill, Eroux108, Realworldobject, Smalyshev, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Nickleh, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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