[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2023-04-20 Thread gerritbot
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  Change 602422 **abandoned** by Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE):
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] [WIP] Do not follow redirects on 
setting sitelinks
  
  Reason:
  
  This was done in I7bac9e6a25.
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602422

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-03-31 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
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  I'm really sorry for all the time this takes. The delays are largely on me 
being swamped. Thank you so much for your patience.
  Since the original badges are added now and this ticket is getting fairly 
convoluted I moved the remaining steps of actually making the badges usable to 
this new ticket: T278962  I'll move 
this to the top of the list of things to pick up by the team.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-03-30 Thread Jheald
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  Addshore's suggested way forward from 10 February seems very sensible.
  
  In particular, it would finally allow bots to add the badges to triage 
existing sitelinks-to-redirects, which currently they are not able to easily 
do.  This at the very least should be facilitated.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-03-05 Thread Jakob_WMDE
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  From task inspection: We also think this isn't super clear and will move it 
back to the main board for now.

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2021-03-05 Thread Jakob_WMDE
Jakob_WMDE edited projects, added Wikidata-Campsite; removed Wikidata-Campsite 
(Wikidata-Campsite-Iteration-∞).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-03-04 Thread WMDE-leszek
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  reiterating on presenting the task to the dev team, making estimation etc 
would be beneficial in this case, I'd think

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-03-04 Thread Addshore
Addshore added a comment.


  Not sure if this should remain in the TODO of the iteration or go throguh 
story time again as the specific details of what needs to / is to be done has 
changed quite a lot
  cc @WMDE-leszek

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2021-02-16 Thread Ladsgroup
Ladsgroup removed Ladsgroup as the assignee of this task.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-02-16 Thread Lydia_Pintscher
Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from Stalled/Waiting to To Do (prioritised from 
top to bottom) on the Wikidata-Campsite (Wikidata-Campsite-Iteration-∞) board.
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  Moving back to todo since it's no longer stalled.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-02-10 Thread Addshore
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  @Lydia_Pintscher and I chatted today and we came to the conclusion that the 
current state of 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422 is 
probably not the right approach, (per my comment at T235420#6791998 
)
  
  A solution that would work would be **Allow redirects to be used as sitelinks 
when one of the redirect related badges is set on the sitelink**
  
  This would mean that:
  
  - Default behaviour remains the same
  - If you want to create a sitelink for a redirect you can, IF you create it 
with the badge
  - If you want to add a redirect related badge to an existing sitelink then 
you can.
  
  Looking at the patch lots of the code will end up being reused, but it will 
need the addition of some checks etc to optionally pass 
`MediaWikiPageNameNormalizer::NOFOLLOW_REDIRECT` into the service etc.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2021-02-08 Thread kaldari
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  > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422/ 
still seems like a product decision by @Lydia_Pintscher and or 
@Samantha_Alipio_WMDE that needs to happen here.
  
  In that case, would you mind asking one of them to respond here or at T54564 
? They do not seem to be responsive 
to Phabricator pings.
  
  > Looking at 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422 this 
changes all input of site title to NOT be normalized.
  > This will probably lead to a large number of sitelinks being created as 
redirects, rather than just for the cases discussed here and in T54564 
 etc.
  
  That is correct.
  
  > Briefly looking at T235420#5932084 
 it sounds like this could 
have a solution that doesn't change all sitelink title input.
  > This comment suggests that the issue is that badges can not be created on 
sitelinks that are redirects.
  > Is that functionality alone enough to meet the requirements here?
  > This ticket is after all about "Create wikidata badges to indicate when 
sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages", not "do not use canonical pages 
names (including following redirects) when sitelinks are created"
  
  Either solution is fine with me, but just ignoring everyone isn't a good 
solution. The Wikidata community clearly favors allowing redirects as sitelinks 
and has been doing it via a workaround for a long time now. There's no good 
reason (that I've heard) to make it so difficult.

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2021-02-01 Thread Eugene
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  @Addshore I agree with you that it could be solved diffrently. But come on, 
orriginal task is from Aug 6 2013, and still it is impossbile to add redirect! 
Many wikis have template like {{tl|wikidata redirect}}, Wikidata has already 
two badges for this purpose. But all that is useless without this patch. Thus 
or merge this one, or solve that other way but no more 7 years of discussions!

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2021-02-01 Thread Addshore
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422/ 
still seems like a product decision by @Lydia_Pintscher and or 
@Samantha_Alipio_WMDE that needs to happen here.
  It's a pretty large change to the status quo of this functionality, and the 
current state was a conscious decision made years ago (from memory).
  
  Looking at 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase/+/602422 this 
changes all input of site title to NOT be normalized.
  This will probably lead to a large number of sitelinks being created as 
redirects, rather than just for the cases discussed here and in T54564 
 etc.
  
  Briefly looking at T235420#5932084 
 it sounds like this could 
have a solution that doesn't change all sitelink title input.
  This comment suggests that the issue is that badges can not be created on 
sitelinks that are redirects.
  Is that functionality alone enough to meet the requirements here?
  This ticket is after all about **"Create wikidata badges to indicate when 
sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages"**, not "do not use canonical pages 
names (including following redirects) when sitelinks are created"

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2021-01-26 Thread kaldari
kaldari added a comment.


  If there are no objections within the next two weeks, I'm planning on +2ing 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602412 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602422.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2020-12-22 Thread kaldari
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  @Addshore - Both Amir and myself have tried to ping @Lydia_Pintscher by 
Phabricator and email several times over the last six months to see if she had 
any remaining objections to merging https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602412 and 
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602422. Neither of us have heard back, so I'm 
going to assume that silence means consent in this context. Unless you know 
something that we don't, it seems like we should move ahead with these patches, 
as there is community consensus in favor of this approach. (See RFC 

 and Wishlist proposal 
.)
 As I mentioned above , it 
seems like Lydia's previous objections have been resolved by the redirect badge 
and templates like {{Wikidata redirect}} 
. What do you think?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T235420: Create wikidata badges to indicate when sitelinks point to Wikipedia redirect pages

2020-10-09 Thread ChristianKl
ChristianKl added a comment.


  Given that we now have the badges, I think it would make sense to 
automatically apply the batch when creating a sidelink to a redirect and not 
just allow people to create unbadged sitelinks to redirects.

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Ladsgroup, Gamaliel, Fuzheado, ItamarWMDE, JAnD, Hsarrazin, deryckchan, agray, 
Lydia_Pintscher, MisterSynergy, Aklapper, Liuxinyu970226, Jheald, Alter-paule, 
Hazizibinmahdi, Beast1978, Un1tY, Akuckartz, Hook696, Iflorez, darthmon_wmde, 
Kent7301, alaa_wmde, joker88john, CucyNoiD, Nandana, Gaboe420, Giuliamocci, 
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