[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[Mbch331]

Mbch331 merged a task: T313185: Page refresh or Null edit required after SDC 
edit.

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[HenkvD]

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  I also found this bug. and reported it as T313185 


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Muchiri124, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[Spinster]

Spinster added a comment.


  I have discovered this bug too, while testing SDC edits with #openrefine 
. See this discussion on 
Multichill's talk page 
.
  
  As I understand correctly, to circumvent this issue, we would need to 
introduce null edits into OpenRefine that trigger a page update.
  
  Maintenance categories like these are very helpful to discover SDC batch 
editing related tasks, and I think it would be great if it can be fixed on the 
Commons side.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[matmarex]

matmarex moved this task from Backlog to External on the Editing-team 
(Tracking) board.
matmarex added a comment.


  We (Editing team) got tagged because of the #templatedata 
 tag, but this doesn't 
look like a bug in TemplateData to me, so I'm moving this to external. Let us 
know if there's actually something we should do.

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Ramsey-WMF, AntiCompositeNumber, Tgr, Addshore, Jarekt, Aklapper, Invadibot, 
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ppelberg, Nandana, JKSTNK, marcella, Revansx, OhKayeSierra, takidelfin, Lahi, 
Gq86, E1presidente, Necroarcano, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Robinma, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
Silverfish, Wess, Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, 
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[matmarex]

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AntiCompositeNumber, Tgr, Addshore, Jarekt, Aklapper, Invadibot, 
GFontenelle_WMF, Mohammadmalek554, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, CBogen, 
Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, 
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Gq86, E1presidente, Necroarcano, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Robinma, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
Silverfish, Wess, Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, 
Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jrf, Husun1297, Jane023, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[Schlurcher]

Schlurcher added a comment.


  Note that this behaviour has resulted in T280232 
 'Uncached wiki requests partially 
unavailable due to excessive request rates from a bot'

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GFontenelle_WMF, Mohammadmalek554, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, CBogen, 
Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, 
ppelberg, Nandana, JKSTNK, marcella, Revansx, OhKayeSierra, takidelfin, Lahi, 
Gq86, E1presidente, Necroarcano, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Robinma, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
Silverfish, Wess, Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[CBogen]

CBogen edited projects, added Structured-Data-Backlog; removed 
Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work).

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Muchiri124, CBogen, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, 
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merbst, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, Wess, Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, 
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[CBogen]

CBogen moved this task from Needs Discussion to Current Work on the 
Structured-Data-Backlog board.
CBogen edited projects, added Structured-Data-Backlog (Current Work); removed 
Structured-Data-Backlog.

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AntiCompositeNumber, Tgr, Addshore, Jarekt, Aklapper, Mohammadmalek554, CBogen, 
Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, 
ppelberg, Nandana, JKSTNK, marcella, Revansx, OhKayeSierra, takidelfin, Lahi, 
PDrouin-WMF, Gq86, E1presidente, Necroarcano, Anooprao, SandraF_WMF, Robinma, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, merbst, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
Silverfish, Wess, Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, 
Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jrf, Husun1297, Jane023, 
Wikidata-bugs, Base, aude, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Ricordisamoa, Mvolz, 
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[daniel]

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Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, 
Susannaanas, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Jrf, Husun1297, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, 
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[Jarekt]

Jarekt added a comment.


  @matthiasmullie, in case it helps: most of out SDC tracking templates are 
based on c:Module:SDC_tracking 
 and templates calling 
it. You probably recreated something similar for testing, but in case it is 
easier to test with already existing code, here it is.

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Dvorapa, Poyekhali, _jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Srdjan, 
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[AntiCompositeNumber]

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Restricted Application added a project: VisualEditor.


  The only extension in 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:PageContentSave_extensions that is on 
WMF sites is #TemplateData 
. The hook calls 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ETDA/browse/master/includes/TemplateDataHooks.php$46},
 which then intentionally parses the page early.
  
/**
 * @param WikiPage &$page
 * @param User &$user
 * @param Content &$content
 * @param string &$summary
 * @param bool $minor
 * @param bool|null $watchthis
 * @param string $sectionanchor
 * @param int &$flags
 * @param Status &$status
 * @return bool
 */
public static function onPageContentSave( WikiPage &$page, &$user, 
&$content, &$summary, $minor,
$watchthis, $sectionanchor, &$flags, &$status
) {
// The PageContentSave hook provides raw $text, but not $parser because 
at this stage
// the page is not actually parsed yet. Which means we can't know 
whether self::render()
// got a valid tag or not. Looking at $text directly is not a solution 
either as
// it may not be in the current page (it can be transcluded).
// Since there is no later hook that allows aborting the save and 
showing an error,
// we will have to trigger the parser ourselves.
// Fortunately this causes no overhead since the below (copied from 
WikiPage::doEditContent,
// right after this hook is ran) has guards that lazy-init and return 
early if called again
// later by the real WikiPage.

// Specify format the same way the API and EditPage do to avoid extra 
parsing
$format = $content->getContentHandler()->getDefaultFormat();
$editInfo = $page->prepareContentForEdit( $content, null, $user, 
$format );

$templateDataStatus = self::getStatusFromParserOutput( 
$editInfo->output );
if ( $templateDataStatus instanceof Status && 
!$templateDataStatus->isOK() ) {
// Abort edit, show error message from 
TemplateDataBlob::getStatus
$status->merge( $templateDataStatus );
return false;
}
return true;
}
  
  1. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ETDA/browse/master/includes/TemplateDataHooks.php$75}
 in TemplateDataHooks::onPageContentSave
  2. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/edit/PreparedEdit.php$119}
  3. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/edit/PreparedEdit.php$104}
 in PreparedEdit::getOutput
  4. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Storage/DerivedPageDataUpdater.php$1337}
 in DerivedPageDataUpdater::getCanonicalParserOutput
  5. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php$197}
 in RenderedRevision::getRevisionParserOutput
  6. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Revision/RevisionRenderer.php$152}
 in RevisionRenderer::getRenderedRevision
  7. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Revision/RevisionRenderer.php$230}
 in RevisionRenderer::combineSlotOutput
  8. 
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php$235}
 in RenderedRevision::getSlotParserOutput
  9. `return $content->getParserOutput(...` at  
{https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Revision/RenderedRevision.php$262}
 in RenderedRevision::getSlotParserOutputUncached

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[matthiasmullie]

matthiasmullie added a comment.


  Here's a simplified example:
  
  Add `{{Sandbox/Mmullie_(WMF)/CheckIfHasStatement}}` to a file (e.g. 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2019-09-16-tenerife-icod.jpg)
  That will add a category (`[[Category:No statements]]`) if there are no 
statements (see Lua at 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Module:Sandbox/Mmullie_(WMF)/my_module), or 
remove that category once there are.
  Now try editing that file (removing all statements, adding new one) and 
you'll find that the categorylinks aren't immediately updated - not until the 
page is (null-)edited once more.
  
  In T237991#6597542 , 
@Addshore wrote:
  
  > Trying to get a view of this ticket and the issue described in the 
description without much context and I'm finding it hard to follow.
  > Would someone be able to write out some more fleshed out steps? not just 
the order but also the content that is changing where, and what exactly is the 
expected outcome of this?
  
  These are usually categories that get created via a Lua script evaluating a 
condition.
  E.g. if a file has (or lacks) a certain statement, it'll add a certain 
category for tracking purposes.
  When a property is added/removed, this prompts the script to re-evaluate and 
update categories accordingly.
  What currently ends up happening is that these pages (where the Lua script 
ends up running and is supposed to update the categorylinks for) need another 
(null) edit to reflect the change - they're always one behind.
  
  What happened is that the process of storing a new revision used to parse the 
old page once more right before the data actually ends up being stored.
  Because the data is not yet in storage at that point, things are rendered 
under the pre-save conditions (with the *old* categorylinks)
  The render itself is not necessarily a problem, but anything related to 
rendering the page might end up caching bits, which will be based off of 
outdated information.
  Later on, post-save, categorylinks etc. are updated as well based off of 
(newly) rendered content, but parts of that content may have been filled in by 
incorrect data in cache, as a result of the earlier render.
  
  There already was a patch to get rid of core's pre-save render. It resolved 
the problem on my local machine, but not on Commons.
  There are pre-save hooks in this area as well, though, so I suspect that an 
extension hooks into the process and also triggers a render.
  (I need to look into this in more detail, but I suspect `PageContentSave` is 
the one, and it's deprecated, so the remaining problem might eventually end up 
going away automatically)
  
  To replicate this on a local setup, try subscribing to `PageContentSave` and 
call `$mainContent->getParserOutput();` - that causes the same behavior we see 
on prod.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

[AntiCompositeNumber]

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  Example category: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Artworks_with_mismatching_structured_data_P6243_property.
 This category is set by `{{artwork}}` when `|wikidata=` is set but it does not 
equal P6243  (digital representation 
of) in SDC.
  
  I've set P6243  to the wrong value 
for 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Self-portrait_by_P%C3%A2rvu_Mutu.jpg. 
The category appears on the file page and the file in the category, as 
expected. F32425021: image.png  
F32425023: image.png 
  
  When I change P6243  to the correct 
value, there is no visible change outside of the changed property, as the page 
does not refresh in the browser. F32425028: image.png 

  
  If I press F5 and refresh the page, however, the category still appears on 
the file page. There's no change compared to the previous screenshot. Ctrl-F5 
also has no effect. The file also still appears in the category.
  
  I then used the UTCLiveClock gadget to purge the file page. This causes the 
following POST request to https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php (form encoded 
data changed to JSON for readability):
  
  name=Request data
{
"action": "purge",
"format": "json",
"titles": "File:Self-portrait_by_Pârvu_Mutu.jpg"
}
  
  name=Response data
{
"batchcomplete": "",
"purge": [
{
"ns": 6,
"title": "File:Self-portrait by Pârvu Mutu.jpg",
"purged": ""
}
],
"normalized": [
{
"from": "File:Self-portrait_by_Pârvu_Mutu.jpg",
"to": "File:Self-portrait by Pârvu Mutu.jpg"
}
]
}
  
  After the purge, the file description page appears correct (the category is 
gone).
  F32425048: image.png 
  However, the file still appears in the category on the category page. Purging 
the category page has no effect.
  
  If I modify the purge to use `forcelinkupdate`
  
  name=Request data
{
"action": "purge",
"format": "json",
"titles": "File:Self-portrait_by_Pârvu_Mutu.jpg",
"forcelinkupdate": true
}
  
  name=Response data
{
"batchcomplete": "",
"purge": [
{
"ns": 6,
"title": "File:Self-portrait by Pârvu Mutu.jpg",
"purged": "",
"linkupdate": ""
}
],
"normalized": [
{
"from": "File:Self-portrait_by_Pârvu_Mutu.jpg",
"to": "File:Self-portrait by Pârvu Mutu.jpg"
}
]
}
  
  The file no longer appears in the category. F32425054: image.png 


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[Addshore]

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  Trying to get a view of this ticket and the issue described in the 
description without much context and I'm finding it hard to follow.
  Would someone be able to write out some more fleshed out steps? not just the 
order but also the content that is changing where, and what exactly is the 
expected outcome of this?
  
  I try to highlight the bits I'm not following below:
  
- `categories which compare data stored as Structured data and in wikitext`
  - What exactly does this mean? an example of how things are added to the 
category etc would be appreciated
  - `if information in Structured data is corrected`
- Corrected how? what is the edit / change that happens?
  - `in such a way that the page should disappear from the category`
- What is expected to cause the page to be removed from the category? I not 
the structured data edit directly? but some intermediate thing on a wikitext 
page somewhere? Is it the file description page of the media info entity?
  - `does not trigger the page refresh the way edits to wikitext of the same 
file does`
- `the page` here being the file page? or the category page listing pages?
  - `Null edit to the page is needed to fix the issue.`
- null edit of the category page? or a file page?

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[matthiasmullie]

matthiasmullie merged tasks: T245349: wbeditentity doesnt trigger page 
update on Wikimedia Commons, T251507: [Spike] Investigate page cache not being 
purged when SD edits are made.
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[matthiasmullie]

matthiasmullie added a comment.


  There are 4 tickets about what is likely the same thing - 1 Wikidata, 3 
Commons. Since we're looking track, I'll merge the other 2 Commons-specific 
tickets into this one.
  
  Current status was already being tracked in 1 of these other tickets, but 
I'll recap here:
  
  - the patch did resolve the problem on my less complex local setup
  - it does not, however, seem to have much of an effect in production
  - I suspect that an extension subscribes to a pre-save hook 
(`PageContentSave`?) and triggers a premature render (similar to what core used 
to do)
  - I don't know what extension
  - I don't know what layer ends up being cached (I suspect one of Wikibase's 
lookups)
  - even if we know what's caching it, it probably isn't possible to circumvent 
it in this particular instance
  
  So yeah, not currently fixed, will need significant additional debugging...

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[Tgr]

Tgr added a comment.


  The title of the task made me think it's about refreshing the edited page 
(ie. the page itself containing outdated/inconsistent data after the edit), but 
I guess it's actually about refreshing the category page (ie. recursive links 
update)? Those are different things. I think the patch should have fixed the 
first, I am unsure about the second.

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[Jarekt]

Jarekt added a comment.


  I tried it again did SDC edits using ACDC tool which should have emptied all 
183 files from 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Creative_Commons_Attribution-Share_Alike_1.0_missing_SDC_copyright_license.
 An hour latter 136 files remain. See 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AAdil_Ray.JPG=revision=508801789=443468314
 for details.

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[Jarekt]

Jarekt added a comment.


  @Ramsey-WMF I just did bunch of SDC edits which should have removed a 
tracking category for files missing the template. Afterwards the category 
should have been empty, but the number of files did not change. I run a quick 
touch operation (add and empty line to the end of the file) and afterwards the 
category is empty. So no it is not working for me.

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[Ramsey-WMF]

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  @Jarekt is this working for you now?

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  It appears to be working correctly to me.

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[Tgr]

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  Can you confirm whether this has been fixed?

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  Change 602053 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [mediawiki/core@master] Remove unwanted parse step
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/602053

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