[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T259505: Create a tour/gadget for property proposal application

[Tacsipacsi]

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  In T139898#8629511 , 
@Titanboo wrote:
  
  > Hello, everyone.
  >
  > Lydia told me about this ticket that might relate to a script I concept and 
wrote with Marchellangelina 
. The tool still needs to 
be built but feel free to discuss this.
  >
  > When I first started editing Wikidata and realizing that there is a need 
for property, I asked @Fexpr about this and she told me about creating the 
Property Proposal first.
  >
  > In the property proposal, there were several things that I found hard to 
understand, as someone whose journey of editing start from Wikidata first, not 
from Wikipedia:
  >
  > - The encapsulation of template. What does it mean?
  > - The syntax of template
  > - The element that needs to be filled in the template
  > - The lack of documentation
  >
  > Because of that, after creating my own proposal for several identifiers, I 
think the easiest way to make this accessible for someone whose wiki journey 
start from being Wikidata editor, is by creating a form that can be filled, so 
the person doesn't have to tinker with the wiki syntax under that.
  >
  > The Google Forms consists of variables needed to propose a property 
proposal, and the script turns the response spreadsheet of the google forms 
into Wikitext. The Google Forms were still in Bahasa Indonesia and were written 
by Marchella Angelina and me, supervised by Fexpr as our coordinator.
  >
  > I realize that in order to do this, there is a need to host this in a place 
like Toolforge so that it can be useful for everyone. Since the program just 
requires string manipulation, maybe all the process can be handled from user 
side? Setting up a server or starting as a Toolforge developer is quite 
intimidating for me, since I didn't have background in tech. If someone here 
want to help or continue discussion regarding this, I'll be very happy to be 
part of this.
  >
  > Here's the link to the script: 
https://github.com/MarchellaAngelina/automated-conversion-of-attribute-proposal-fields-into-wikitext
  
  Instead of a Python tool running on Toolforge, it could be a JavaScript 
gadget running directly on Wikidata. It would make it easier to deploy and to 
enable, but the Google Docs integration may be trickier. Maybe Google Forms 
should just be dropped, and the form should also be on-wiki.

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  There's also this alternative solution: T298405 


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T259505: Create a tour/gadget for property proposal application

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[Mrjohncummings]

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  Myself and @NavinoEvans have been discussing this as well, we were thinking 
that FormWizard could be used to create the forms which would make it much more 
user friendly. The main issue I can see currently is how to do the examples in 
a form, its quite fiddly

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T259505: Create a tour/gadget for property proposal application

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Random idea. The process of proposing a new property requires some exact 
steps:
  
  1. choose one category
  2. fill in the "form" 
 
(requires wikitext knowledge, it may be possible to build an //actual// form)
  3. publish the proposal and transclude it to the category
  
  A tour / gadget could make this process more user-friendly.

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