[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

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  Thanks everyone! This should go out next week :)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

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  Change 633556 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme@master] Add lexeme language codes 
sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya (Santali in Latin, Bengali and Oriya scripts)
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633556

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-10-13 Thread jhsoby
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  In T262967#6536922 , 
@Mahir256 wrote:
  
  > I must agree with Bodhi here that having a code for sat-olck is still 
necessary as it is not guaranteed that Santali speakers outside of India will 
be able to read it. "Official" in India need not mean "official" in the other 
countries in which it is spoken, as a closer read of the article on the 
language should indicate. Besides, we already have separate language codes for 
a particular language and the scripts in which it is written, including the 
"default" (such as kk and kk-arab, kk-cyrl, kk-latn, or iu and ike-cans, 
ike-latn, and similarly for ks, ku, tg, and ug) so I don't see a problem with 
continuing this trend in the interest of preventing ambiguity.
  
  If I understand correctly, Ol Chiki is used as the default script for 
anything Santali (in Wikimedia projects). So if we add `sat-olck` we will 
essentially have two different language codes (`sat` and `sat-olck`) that cover 
the exact same thing. The rest make sense since they're different from the 
default, but as long as there is a default script for a language (in our 
context), it doesn't make sense to me to add the language code with the script 
specified.

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2020-10-13 Thread Mbch331
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-10-13 Thread Mbch331
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  @jhsoby Can you respond to Mahir256?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-10-12 Thread Mahir256
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  I must agree with Bodhi here that having a code for sat-olck is still 
necessary as it is not guaranteed that Santali speakers outside of India will 
be able to read it. "Official" in India need not mean "official" in the other 
countries in which it is spoken, as a closer read of the article on the 
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2020-10-12 Thread gerritbot
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

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  Change 633556 had a related patch set uploaded (by Mbch331; owner: Mbch331):
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikibaseLexeme@master] Add lexeme language codes 
sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya (Santali in Latin, Bengali and Oriya scripts)
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633556

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-10-12 Thread Mbch331
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  I'll add the codes except for sat-Olck. (@Bodhisattwa: Default script only 
means that omitting the script from the language code means the default script 
applies, so sat = sat-Olck.)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-10-12 Thread jhsoby
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  With the exception of sat-Olck (for the reasons @Mbch331 mentions) these all 
make sense to me, as long as there is use for them (and I trust @Bodhisattwa 
knows that best). So that's a "go" from me.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-09-15 Thread Bodhisattwa
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  While Ol-chiki is the script used in India,Santali community uses Bengali 
script  in Bangladesh. And earlier books were written in Latin script by the 
British missionaries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santali_Latin_alphabet

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T262967: Add lexeme language codes sat-olck, sat-latn, sat-beng, sat-orya

2020-09-15 Thread Mbch331
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  According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santali_language  Ol-chiki is the 
official script, so sat-olck would be redundant (sat would always be sat-olck), 
but Iana 

 doesn't tell to supress any script.
  @Amire80 @jhsoby What's your opinion about adding these codes and should 
sat-olck be added or not?

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2020-09-15 Thread Bodhisattwa
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  This ticket is to add language codes for the representations of Santali 
lexemes and forms with ISO 15924 codes (lowercased) for Ol-chiki, Latin, 
Bengali and Oriya scripts, which are the 4 different scripts which are used for 
Santali language.

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