[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

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  Change 693536 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert "Enable Wikidata description 
override on dewiki at beta"
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/693536

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

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  Change 693536 had a related patch set uploaded (by Zabe; author: Zabe):
  
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Revert "Enable Wikidata description 
override on dewiki at beta"
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/693536

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

[Ameisenigel]

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  We still need to revert the change in beta

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[Ameisenigel]

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  In the RfC 

 there was no consensus für enabling local short descriptions.

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  In T279829#7060056 , 
@XanonymusX wrote:
  
  > I am pretty sure that the short description will work in the same way as 
the sort key does right now; thus we of course need to review the revision (in 
the wikitext), but the description the page uses will come from the latest 
revision, even if not reviewed. That is of course not the ideal behaviour (same 
for DEFAULTSORT), but with the current status of the FlaggedRevs extension it 
is to be expected.
  
  Yes, anything that is needed outside of the HTML presentation of the page 
(and the goal of the short description is to be used in all kinds of JS widgets 
and external tools / apps, so it needs to be available independently of the 
HTML) needs to live somewhere else than the parser output for the page, and 
FlaggedRevs's alternative storage for stable revisions only extends to the 
parser output, so stable versions of short descriptions are not supported and 
cannot easily be supported, no matter what source the descriptions are pulled 
from.

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  See also: T282170: Move "Short Descriptions" outside Wikibase.git 


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T279829: Enable magic word SHORTDESC on German-language Wikipedia

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  Change 682337 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable Wikidata description override on 
dewiki at beta
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682337

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  I am pretty sure that the short description will work in the same way as the 
sort key does right now; thus we of course need to review the revision (in the 
wikitext), but the description the page uses will come from the latest 
revision, even if not reviewed. That is of course not the ideal behaviour (same 
for DEFAULTSORT), but with the current status of the FlaggedRevs extension it 
is to be expected.

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  @DannyH and others: German Wikipedia uses "flagged revisions" on all pages; 
changes are only being displayed to readers if they have been flagged/reviewed 
by an experienced editor.
  
  How would SHORTDESC interact with flagged revisions? Would it respect the 
review status so that it only displays short descriptions from flagged/reviewed 
revisions, or would always the short description from the latest revision be 
used in apps, mobile skins, and search regardless of a pending flagging process?

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  To clarify, we will support the community consensus that comes from the 
discussion and voting.

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  Change 682337 had a related patch set uploaded (by Luke081515; author: 
Luke081515):
  
  [operations/mediawiki-config@master] Enable Wikidata description override on 
dewiki at beta
  
  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/682337

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[XanonymusX]

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  In my eyes, it is only reasonable that WMF would try to treat 
communities/projects equally, even if indeed several years have passed. But 
anyway, since I am the initiator on dewiki, I will not allow for a premature 
termination to happen. Let’s continue the talks on dewiki!

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[MisterSynergy]

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  In T279829#7028342 , 
@XanonymusX wrote:
  
  > Yeah, as I proposed, we should choose a different path for that issue; I 
will specify my proposal very soon (was thinking about 90% of the 2.13 mln), 
and we will always offer the option of not getting rid of WD descriptions at 
all.
  
  Yes, but I am highly disappointing that the inappropriate 850k number is on 
the table now. It signals that WMF apparently does not care much about the lost 
descriptions and how they effectively improve their products (apps, skins, 
search, etc). It also might make it easy for hardliners to force us dumping 
Wikidata descriptions at an unreasonably early stage.

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  In T279829#7028314 , 
@MisterSynergy wrote:
  
  > The German Wikipedia community has not yet even discussed whether Wikidata 
descriptions should be dumped completely, or which milestone would be 
appropriate in case this should be done. Some remarks:
  >
  > - In case this gets approved, there is a plan to add short descriptions 
from [[de:Vorlage:Personendaten]], which actually has systematic "short 
descriptions" for all biographies in German Wikipedia that would immediately 
qualify for use in SHORTDESC as well. With 870.000 transclusions, it alone 
would be sufficient to pass the proposed 850.000 requirement, leaving all 
non-biographies without descriptions.
  > - A couple of days ago, I queried the situation a bit. There were 2,56 
million German Wikipedia articles (main namespace, no redirects), of which 2,13 
million (83%) use a German description from Wikidata. This is considerably more 
than what we had three years ago for English Wikipedia.
  >
  > You propose to ignore 1,3 million existing descriptions from Wikidata. This 
is way too much, particularly considering that quite some editors have invested 
considerable time into adding Wikidata descriptions due to the way they have 
been used and exposed to readers in the past six years or so. It is also 
unclear at this point whether there is a desire to dump Wikidata descriptions 
entirely that is as strong as it was in English Wikipedia three years ago.
  
  Yeah, as I proposed, we should choose a different path for that issue; I will 
specify my proposal very soon (was thinking about 90% of the 2.13 mln), and we 
will always offer the option of not getting rid of WD descriptions at all.

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[MisterSynergy]

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  The German Wikipedia community has not yet even discussed whether Wikidata 
descriptions should be dumped completely, or which milestone would be 
appropriate. Some remarks:
  
  - In case this gets approved, there is a plan to add short descriptions from 
[[de:Vorlage:Personendaten]], which actually has systematic "short 
descriptions" for all biographies in German Wikipedia that would immediately 
qualify for use in SHORTDESC as well. With 870.000 transclusions, it alone 
would be sufficient to pass the 850.000 requirement, leaving all 
non-biographies without descriptions.
  - A couple of days ago, I queried the situation a bit. There were 2,56 
million German Wikipedia articles (main namespace, no redirects), of which 2,13 
million (83%) use a German description from Wikidata. This is considerably more 
than what we had three years ago for English Wikipedia.
  
  You propose to ignore 1,3 million existing descriptions from Wikidata. This 
is way too much, particularly considering that quite some editors have invested 
considerable time into adding Wikidata descriptions due to the way they have 
been used and exposed to readers in the past six years or so. It is also 
unclear at this point whether there is a desire to dump Wikidata descriptions 
entirely that is as strong as it was in English Wikipedia three years ago.

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[XanonymusX]

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  Perfect, thank you! As for step two, we are discussing that separately and 
might choose a different approach than English Wikipedia, but the procedure 
will show. We will continue our talks and then move forward with voting on the 
proposals soon.

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[DannyH]

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  Hi, thanks for your patience. If the current community discussion comes to 
consensus to switch to just pulling short descriptions from German WP, then we 
are willing to follow the same steps that we did with English.
  
  There's a two-step process for switching over, so that the short descriptions 
don't suddenly disappear while you're writing the new descriptions.
  
  First, we can enable the SHORTDESC magic word, which you can put on articles 
and start writing short descriptions. For articles with a SHORTDESC 
description, our features and apps will use the description from German WP. For 
articles that don't have a SHORTDESC description, we fall back to using the 
Wikidata description.
  
  Once there are enough short descriptions, we can make the switch to only 
pulling descriptions from German WP. At that point, for articles that don't 
have a SHORTDESC description, there won't be any description displayed. When we 
did this with English WP, we asked for 2 million short descriptions before we 
made the switch (about a third of the articles). German WP currently has 2.5 
million articles, so I think 850,000 short descriptions will be enough.
  
  To make that easier, you can feel free to populate the SHORTDESC descriptions 
using a bot that copies all of the existing descriptions from Wikidata. If the 
community chooses to do that, then we can get to the second step quickly. 
English WP decided to write all of the new descriptions by hand, so it took a 
while before we took the second step.
  
  We won't do anything until the community has come to consensus. If it helps 
the discussion, you can feel free to let people know what we've said here.

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[XanonymusX]

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  Thanks! There is no need to hurry, the current discussion is one of a series 
that went on for years, so we can wait a bit longer. I will not move on with 
the voting for now, as it is only fair to first provide the community with as 
much additional input as possible.

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[DannyH]

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  Hi all, thanks for the ping. I hadn't seen the discussion on German WP, so 
the request came as a bit of a surprise. Now that I've read the discussion, I 
understand the concerns that people are raising there.
  
  Before we make a decision, I'll need to get together with some people in my 
department to talk about it, and figure out the right way to handle it. I'll 
schedule that for next week, and once we've talked about it, I'll be able to 
get back to you with a real answer.

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[XanonymusX]

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  There is no point in re-discussing it; if a community wants to use it, they 
should be able to. And what exactly is the use of a German-language short 
description of a dewiki article for other projects?

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[Carn]

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  SHORTDESC is a terrible thing - it blocks cross-project work. This mechanism 
should be removed, not expanded.

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[Urbanecm]

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  Hello everyone, I suggest to wait a few days for a response from @DannyH, who 
wrote the comment that leaded to several similar requests being declined. He's 
still employed by the Foundation, and I'm sure he'll have a look at this ticket 
soon. Best, Martin

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