[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282504: Reconsider the design of ShortDescription extension

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282504: Reconsider the design of ShortDescription extension

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282504: Reconsider the design of ShortDescription extension

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  There have been multiple requests to enable ShortDescription 
 on various WMF 
wikis and at the time of this writing, with the except of enwiki and testwiki, 
it is not enabled anywhere (through there is the possibility of it being 
enabled on German Wikipedia at some point, see T279829 
).
  
  After reviewing some of these discussions, I have come to the conclusion that 
there is a design flaw in the extension's workflow that is the root cause of 
some of the contentious discussions about this extension. I am going to be bold 
and make a proposal here in good faith.
  
  PS: The tag //MediaWiki-extensions-ShortDescription// does not exist or else 
I would have used it.
  
  Preliminary Analysis
  
  
  One one hand, we would like to have a short description about every item in 
Wikidata in as many languages as possible. Many of these items are linked to 
Wikipedia articles, so it appears logical that this relationship should be 
utilized; hence the idea that once we display the short descriptions on top of 
the corresponding Wikipedia article in the corresponding language, then the 
editors of that Wikipedia would be incentivized to edit the descriptions on 
Wikidata. Presumably, this will result in //killing two birds with one stone//; 
those editors' edits will not only improve the way articles are shown on that 
Wikipedia (particularly on mobile devices, in which short description is 
displayed prominently) but will also enrich Wikidata.
  
  But there is the catch: Wikipedia editors are **not** necessarily interested 
in also editing Wikidata. They don't want to leave the website; they don't want 
to have another set of pages to monitor for vandalism; they don't want to log 
in twice as many times; they want everything to be in one place.
  
  Compare the design of ShortDescription workflow with the workflow used for 
managing interwiki links. You can do the latter all from within a Wikipedia, 
without having to leave the Wikipedia article page. In contrast, there is no 
way to edit ShortDescription from within Wikipedia, barring by enabling the 
ShortDescription extension and allowing local descriptions to override those in 
Wikidata. And if the goal is to prevent Wikidata vandalism to show up on the 
Wikipedia, then the community will prefer to fully override Wikidata (as is the 
case in English Wikipedia, and the expectation in German Wikipedia per T279829 
). This means what the local 
community finds most maintainable will be contradictory to the original goal of 
"enriching Wikidata".
  
  Another aspect of the workflow that is problematic is whether the wikis can 
control which short descriptions are editable. When maintained locally through 
the use of magic word, the wikis have the added ability to protect that page, 
thereby stopping vandalism in short descriptions of select articles. But when 
maintained centrally at Wikidata, local sysops lose that control. Most local 
sysops are not Wikidata sysops, so they cannot protect a Wikidata item. They 
//could// report vandalism on Wikidata and request for the item to be 
protected, but from a usability perspective, that is several additional clicks 
and includes departing the Wikipedia for a different project. This is clearly 
undesirable.
  
  Proposal
  
  
  1. Revamp the ShortDescription extension and/or any other code that is used 
to display Wikidata short descriptions on Wikipedia pages in such way that 
users can edit short descriptions from within the Wikipedia page, without 
having to ever visit Wikidata (i.e. similar to the workflow used for interwiki 
links).
  2. Particuarly ensure that the new workflow works easily on mobile devices; 
desktop users often don't even see the short descriptions on Wikipedia, so 
would not notice vandalism in it.
  3. Through the use of a JS gadget that is enabled on all wikis, make it easy 
for users with "patrol" right to report vandalism of short descriptions on 
Wikidata //without leaving Wikipedia//. Imagine a "report vandalism" link that 
appears next to the short description on Wikipedia, which one could click on if 
they notice that the short description is being vandalized, thereby informing 
Wikidata admins to take action on it.

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