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  Change 722709 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataPageBanner@REL1_36] Add link parameter to 
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/722709

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  Thanks @Jdlrobson! I've updated the docs, and backported to 1.36, and will 
now update the WMAU website.

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  Change 722709 had a related patch set uploaded (by Samwilson; author: 
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  Change 712916 **merged** by jenkins-bot:
  
  [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataPageBanner@master] Add link parameter to 
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/712916

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  No longer stalled.
  
  Patch is ready for review.

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  This is stalled awaiting T24 .

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  Change 712916 had a related patch set uploaded (by Samwilson; author: 
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  [mediawiki/extensions/WikidataPageBanner@master] Add link parameter to 
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  https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/712916

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  I'm happy to defer to your best judgement here  Sam :) I can review providing 
it has tests.

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  I'm happy to work on this, if you agree that a new `link` param is the right 
way to go (I don't want to start if it's not likely to be accepted). The link 
param would also give Wikivoyage the option of not linking, they'd just need to 
update their template. Seems pretty low-risk to me.

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  I guess you're right. I'm not sure why this was made into a link if 
attribution was not the reason.  With respect to "to prevent users clicking on 
something that is just decoration." I am wondering if this should be default 
behaviour but I'd want to check in with English Wikivoyage before dropping that 
behaviour. It does seem a bit odd that clicking a banner would take you to the 
file page... to be honest it feels odd that there's a link in the first place.
  
  Given images accept a link property it makes sense that this would to, 
particularly given it is rendering an image but I'd want to get some more input 
from others on Wikivoyage.org whether that makes sense if we're going to pursue 
this.

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  I'm not sure I understand the concern about attribution: surely the same 
problem applies to any image in a wiki that's not got a link? And MediaWiki has 
had those forever.
  
  If Wikivoyage wants to always link to the banner image, they'd just have to 
//not// add `|link=` — and given they call `{{PAGEBANNER}}` in a protected 
template, it seems unlikely that it'd be added by accident.

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[Jdlrobson]

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  @samwilson got it. I guess the challenge here is making sure the image is 
still attributed. We'd probably want to talk to the Wikivoyage community first 
with around revisiting that. Perhaps some text can be added in the footer to 
handle the attribution to add link support.

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  Ah my apologies. I see.
  
  This will still be very very useful for the banners also, as similar issues 
remain for those also. We ideally want the option of them being unlinked/static 
to avoid navigational confusion.
  
  Thanks!

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[Samwilson]

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  Good points @Tenniscourtisland
  
  On the matter of images in general though, note that the 
`[[File:Example.jpg|link=Foo]]` syntax already exists and solves this problem 
for those images (I've just made the change 

 the to WMAU homepage! thanks for pointing it out, I should've noticed before), 
so the missing bit is to add the same functionality to the banner image at the 
top of the page.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284896: Add 'link' param to {{PAGEBANNER}} to change target

[Tenniscourtisland]

Tenniscourtisland added a comment.


  Two further points:
  
  - Images are commonly used like buttons on websites these days. Media Wiki 
doesn't currently seem to have that capacity. This would enable images to be 
used in that way.
  - When you click on an image at the moment it takes you to the image on 
Wikimedia Commons on Media Wiki sites, which is not how regular images behave 
on standard static websites. This is confusing for our audiences and could mean 
then get lost and don't know why or how they've got to the image source page. 
For example on the Wikimedia Australia home page 
, we would prefer the 
#1Lib1Ref banner to take the reader to the 1Lib1Ref page. Currently they have 
to click on the exact heading link or they will not see the content we want 
them to see.
  
  This function in particular is really going to help Media Wiki function as a 
general website. It will be really great!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284896: Add 'link' param to {{PAGEBANNER}} to change target

[Samwilson]

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  A couple of ideas:
  
  - to prevent users clicking on something that is just decoration.
  - to link to the more suitable page for a given image (e.g. an image might 
have multiple versions, one of which is the banner-cropped one, and they all be 
listed on a single page and it's that page that we'd want people to end up on).
  - a banner might be used as an event announcement, and clicking on it could 
go to an external ticketing page.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284896: Add 'link' param to {{PAGEBANNER}} to change target

[Samwilson]

Samwilson updated the task description.

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[Jdlrobson]

Jdlrobson added a comment.


  Could you eloborate a bit on the usecase here? Thanks!

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T284896: Add 'link' param to {{PAGEBANNER}} to change target

[Samwilson]

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  It'd be useful to be able to change the target of a banner's link. A 
`link=Page name` parameter would be in line with standard image syntax.

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