[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

[Gehel]

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

[Harej]

Harej added a comment.


  I don't think SPARQL is inherently good; it's just what has become standard 
in our community.
  
  One simple product that could use a relational DB backend would be an 
identifier mapping service, where you put in a Wikidata ID (or any ID supported 
by the system) and get all the other IDs back. Wikidata's identifier mapping 
functionality is very powerful and useful and something that would not be 
difficult to implement.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

[Justin0x2004]

Justin0x2004 added a comment.


  I think it is beneficial to have an initial common search interface (SPARQL) 
to Wikidata. If Google directed users to specialized services for initially 
searching for movie showtimes, maps of locations, academic publications, etc. 
then I think someone else would come along and make a better Google.
  
  That Wikidata's SPARQL interface is used a lot isn't a reason to try to get 
people/applications off of it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

[Esc3300]

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  From the explanation given by @So9q on project chat 
,
 it seems interesting to be able to use (or learn to use) other graph 
languages, such as Gremlin .
  
  This doesn't need to be over the entire database, but a subset could be 
sufficient.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T291340: additional services as alternatives to current WDQS use

[Lydia_Pintscher]

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  A number of users (especially usage via APIs) are currently using the 
Wikidata Query Service even though it is not the most appropriate tool for the 
job. One reason for this is a lack of better alternative and more specialized 
services. This ticket is trying to collect a number of these usecases that 
would be better served by other services so we can evaluate what to build next.
  
  Patters we are seeing:
  
  | pattern 
   | example
   | possible solution|
  | queries that don't need the full power of sparql but rely on the query 
service to get labels for linked entities in the result | getting the names for 
the head of government of a country | the upcoming REST API will help here |

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