[Wikidata-l] features needed by langlink bots (was Re: update from the Hebrew Wikipedia)
Just to answer these questions for my _java_ interwiki bot MerlIwBot: Am 12.10.2012 16:45, schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything to articles that are already listed in the repository and have the correct links displayed? Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything with articles that have interwiki conflicts (multiple links, non-1-to-1 linking etc.)? yes, because this is wikidata independent for my java bot and worked already before. So running my bot is always save on these wikis. non-1-to-1 langlinks can be moved partly to wikidata because mixing if wikidata and local langlinks is possible. But please note that since change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25232/ which is live with 1.21.wmf2 no multiple langlinks are display anymore. Will the bots be smart enough to update the repo in the transition period, when some Wikipedias have Wikidata and some don't? My bot can update the repository but will cause much load on local wikis. That's because currently there is no possibility to know if a langlinks is stored local or at wikidata. Local langlinks can be stored on main page or any included page. So the whole source code of every included page must be checked first. I created a feature request which could solve this problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41345 . If hope this will be added before wikidata goes live. To update the repository my bot need to know the corresponding repository script url for a local wiki. Currently http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php is hard coded at my bot framework. But this repository url will change for hewiki. There is currently no way to request this info using api. I also created a feature requests for this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41347 Merlissimo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Some questions
2012/10/23 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de: On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I got a number of questions. Hope not to bother. 1) Has the testing of phase 1 already started on hu.wp? No. :( When will it, so? 2) Will phase 1 be also expanded to ns=/=0 (i.e. templates, categories, help pages...) and to other projects (i.e. Wikisource, Wikiquote...)? The first already works on the demo system. As for other projects: Let's get this working on Wikipedia first. We're not even there yet ;-) Technically more is possible. Ok, perfect. :) This is actually a question coming from it.wikisource's admins, they're really into the project too, but they were a bit disappointed by the fact this is still Wikipedia-only-oriented at the moment. 3) When will be possible to test phase 2 on Wikidata-test-repo? The first parts on phase 2 are already on the test system. More will come over the next weeks. Good, can't wait to test them. :))) 4) Is there already a script for testing the automatic upload of interlinks? I'd like to run some tests with my bot. What do you want to test exactly? I would like to test the PyWikidata thing, but we'll discuss it later on IRC. I already saw Amir's (Aharoni, not Amir1) explanation, but at the moment I have no time to reply. I will (hopefully) in the next hour. Thanks again for your kindness. :) -- Luca Sannita Martinelli http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utente:Sannita ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] features needed by langlink bots (was Re: update from the Hebrew Wikipedia)
Is it helpful? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Wikidata On 10/24/12, Merlissimo m...@toolserver.org wrote: Just to answer these questions for my _java_ interwiki bot MerlIwBot: Am 12.10.2012 16:45, schrieb Amir E. Aharoni: Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything to articles that are already listed in the repository and have the correct links displayed? Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything with articles that have interwiki conflicts (multiple links, non-1-to-1 linking etc.)? yes, because this is wikidata independent for my java bot and worked already before. So running my bot is always save on these wikis. non-1-to-1 langlinks can be moved partly to wikidata because mixing if wikidata and local langlinks is possible. But please note that since change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/25232/ which is live with 1.21.wmf2 no multiple langlinks are display anymore. Will the bots be smart enough to update the repo in the transition period, when some Wikipedias have Wikidata and some don't? My bot can update the repository but will cause much load on local wikis. That's because currently there is no possibility to know if a langlinks is stored local or at wikidata. Local langlinks can be stored on main page or any included page. So the whole source code of every included page must be checked first. I created a feature request which could solve this problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41345 . If hope this will be added before wikidata goes live. To update the repository my bot need to know the corresponding repository script url for a local wiki. Currently http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php is hard coded at my bot framework. But this repository url will change for hewiki. There is currently no way to request this info using api. I also created a feature requests for this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41347 Merlissimo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Amir ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Some questions
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Has the testing of phase 1 already started on hu.wp? No. :( When will it, so? I'd love to tell you more than soon but I can't unfortunately :/ I'll send an email here as soon as it's happening. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] Some questions
Ok, just one more thing I just remembered: what if I find some data about a potentially relevant article, but there's no article on no project at all? I mean, is it possible to create first the Wikidata entry and then the Wikipedia article? L. 2012/10/24 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Luca Martinelli martinellil...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Has the testing of phase 1 already started on hu.wp? No. :( When will it, so? I'd love to tell you more than soon but I can't unfortunately :/ I'll send an email here as soon as it's happening. Cheers Lydia ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
[Wikidata-l] New release of Pywikidata: feature requests?
Hi all, I've released a new version of Pywikidata @ https://github.com/jcreus/pywikidata (not really a release, since there is no version numbering; I should begin, maybe...). New features include: - Changes pushed to the server are only the properties which have changed. This means that it is really faster, and it is the way it should be (according to the spec). - 'uselang' is no longer accepted, per spec. - Bot flag allowed. Right now there's some more stuff left to do (including adapting to changes to the API, and adding the claim system [still beta]), but is there any feature request of something which would be useful for bots? In regards to Pywikipediabot integration I think someone is working on it (thanks!); yet I think it would be better to wait. Pywikipedia is a mature project and Pywikidata is still evolving constantly (mostly due to API changes, which break it). So I'd wait until Pywikidata has matured too, and Wikidata is deployed to WMF wikis. By the way, pull requests will be gladly accepted :). Joan Creus (joancreus@freenode, Joancreus@wikipedia) ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
