[Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To those
of you that are not American, happy Why can't I reach any of the the
Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!.

So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he
mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit and
we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on
the project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November
13.

Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another
to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new
API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is on
fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again?

On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and
resume once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private
that day that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects
(and Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if
that's possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with
four digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D

Sven
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Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Sven Manguard
I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we
already knew that we *could*, the issue is whether or not we *should*.

Sven

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Lydia Pintscher 
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hey there. To those of you that are American, happy Thanksgiving! To
 those
  of you that are not American, happy Why can't I reach any of the the
  Americans today, and what's with all this talk of stuffing? day!.
 
  So a while back when Denny gave a talk in Boston about Wikidata, he
  mentioned that he didn't want bots running until after the new API hit
 and
  we had a chance to make sure that nothing was broken. I reposted that on
 the
  project chat and we all agreed to stop the bots. That was on November 13.
 
  Today I wake up to find that there is a bot running, and another
  to-be-bot-op is asking if he can run his too. Does anyone know if the new
  API has hit? Denny had no idea when it would. If it has, and nothing is
 on
  fire, does anyone have any other objections to running bots again?

 No it has not. Technically you can run bots. Just don't got too crazy
 with them :)

  On a final note, I would ask that the bots stop running at Q99900 and
 resume
  once we're at Q11, as Denny did make a point to me in private that
 day
  that I agree with, that it's great for the milestones in projects (and
  Q10 is a big one) to be reached by humans and not bots. Donno if
 that's
  possible to program in though. Gosh, I remember creating things with four
  digits after the Q. I'm feeling old. :D

 Heh I think that's something you need to figure out with the people
 running the bots.


 Cheers
 Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we
 already knew that we could, the issue is whether or not we should.

There is no technical reason at the moment to not run bots. Beyond
that it's not the staff's call to make.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Bots and the new API

2012-11-22 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Lydia Pintscher 
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Sven Manguard svenmangu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm getting contradictory messages from Wikidata staff then. I mean we
  already knew that we could, the issue is whether or not we should.

 There is no technical reason at the moment to not run bots. Beyond
 that it's not the staff's call to make.

 I want to run my bot for test but gave me error 10061 (actively refusing
server) !


 Cheers
 Lydia

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