Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource
Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata) *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot about it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55090) Are you going to let people to add several links with the same site in an item of Wikidata or vice verse, adding one link to several items, both of them are technically seems impossible to me because your output is dictionary (when you call API) and diciotnaries can't have several values for a key, what are you going to do about it? Best On 11/2/13, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent news! :) For the author pages it is quite straight-forward. For the bibliographic metadata the easiest would be to connect wikidata items with the Book: page generated by the (planned) Book Manager extension. The Book: page is supposed to provide the book structure and act as a metadata hub for both books with scans (those with Index: page) and books without scans (there was no solution for those yet) Project page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Book_management Bugzilla page: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071 Example: http://tools.wmflabs.org/bookmanagerv2/mediawiki/index.php?title=Book:The_Interpretation_of_Dreamsaction=edit Problem, the extension is not finished yet and neither Molly nor Raylton have time to keep working on it. Some bugs are still open and the fields in the template would need to be maped to Wikidata properties. All this is not relevant for phase 1 (if it is done only for books), but it will become relevant for phase 2. Is there anyone that could volunteer as an OPW mentor to help a potential student to finish this project? Cheers, Micru On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey everyone, The next sister project to get language links via Wikidata is Wikisource. We're currently planning this for January 13. The coordination is happening at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisource On this page we're also looking for ambassadors to help spread the messages to the different language editions of Wikisource. Please help if you can. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non -- Amir ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource
Amir Ladsgroup, 03/11/2013 18:36: Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata) Very true! Perhaps the proposal needs more supporters, it should be very trivial to do. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikiquote *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot about it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55090) Are you going to let people to add several links with the same site in an item of Wikidata or vice verse, adding one link to several items, both of them are technically seems impossible to me because your output is dictionary (when you call API) and diciotnaries can't have several values for a key, what are you going to do about it? There's a bug report about this in wikidata too but no time now to find the number. Nemo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Amir Ladsgroup, 03/11/2013 18:36: Two questions: *Why don't you add Wikiquote?, It's pretty look like Wikipedia in concept (you don't have to make so many new items when you add Wikiquote as client of Wikidata) Very true! Perhaps the proposal needs more supporters, it should be very trivial to do. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikiquote No need for supporters in this case :) Wikiquote is on my radar as one of the easier ones to go for after Wikisource. However what would be very helpful for me is having people sign up on the page you linked as ambassadors so we have those ready when the time comes. The same goes for all the other projects still in line. To clarify: an ambassador is knowledgeable about the project in question and Wikidata. They're willing to help with announcements and can answer questions (with my help as needed). Having that hopefully makes things go a lot smoother for everyone. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource
Am 03.11.2013 19:59, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): *Wikisource has a big difference in interwiki mapping. you can map an item in wikisource to several item in another language (we have an open bug in bugzilla for Pywikibot about it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55090) Are you going to let people to add several links with the same site in an item of Wikidata or vice verse, adding one link to several items, both of them are technically seems impossible to me because your output is dictionary (when you call API) and diciotnaries can't have several values for a key, what are you going to do about it? There's a bug report about this in wikidata too but no time now to find the number. From a technical perspective, sitelinks have to be unique (per project), otherwise they wouldn't function as sitelinks as defined by the data model (changing the data model would have in that regard would have aquite a few annoying consequences). It's entirely possible to link multiple pages on another wiki using properties/statements, though. -- daniel ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
