[Wikidata-l] extensions not on translatewiki.net

2014-09-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi,

Several Wikidata-related extensions are not translatable on
translatewiki.net.

The ones I could find are:
* Wikibase DataModel
* Wikibase DataModel JavaScript
* Wikidata build
* WikimediaBadges
* The various DataValues extensions

All extensions need at least a translatable description for
Special:Version, and some of the above have actual messages to translate.

If I understand correctly, the reasons for this is that it's more
comfortable for their developers to have the code review in GitHub, and
translatewiki's MediaWiki extensions L10n export scripts work only with
Gerrit. The question is, is it feasible to sync GitHub and Gerrit, so that
these extensions would be easily translatable?

If I understand correctly, something like this is already done for some
MediaWiki extensions, among the SemanticResultFormats and Maps.

Thanks for any assistance.

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[Wikidata-l] packaging and deployment time

2014-09-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi,

The following little change by myself was merged by Aude on September 9:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/159070/

As far as I can see, it is not deployed to Wikipedia yet.

It's not really urgent, but it made me curious: What is the deployment
schedule for Wikidata extensions?

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Re: [Wikidata-l] packaging and deployment time

2014-09-27 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Hi,

 The following little change by myself was merged by Aude on September 9:
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/159070/

 As far as I can see, it is not deployed to Wikipedia yet.


We deployed new code to test.wikidata on September 11 but had to revert due
to caching issues there and then skipped deployment to wikidata.  Hence
your patch, unfortunately, is not deployed yet.

We will deploy on wikidata again on Tuesday since we had no issues this
past Thursday on test.wikidata with our new code.


 It's not really urgent, but it made me curious: What is the deployment
 schedule for Wikidata extensions?


We normally deploy every two weeks, except perhaps around holidays or
Wikimania, we skip deployment.

Our schedule is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment

Cheers,

Katie



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Re: [Wikidata-l] extensions not on translatewiki.net

2014-09-27 Thread Katie Filbert
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Hi,

 Several Wikidata-related extensions are not translatable on
 translatewiki.net.

 The ones I could find are:
 * Wikibase DataModel
 * Wikibase DataModel JavaScript
 * Wikidata build


As far as I am concerned and if no one objects, I would be okay with moving
the Wikidata build (resources) component to gerrit, if that helps with
translations.

https://github.com/wmde/WikidataBuildResources

For other things like data model and data values, the preference is for
github and I defer to Jeroen, Lydia, etc.

Cheers,
Katie

* WikimediaBadges
 * The various DataValues extensions

 All extensions need at least a translatable description for
 Special:Version, and some of the above have actual messages to translate.

 If I understand correctly, the reasons for this is that it's more
 comfortable for their developers to have the code review in GitHub, and
 translatewiki's MediaWiki extensions L10n export scripts work only with
 Gerrit. The question is, is it feasible to sync GitHub and Gerrit, so that
 these extensions would be easily translatable?

 If I understand correctly, something like this is already done for some
 MediaWiki extensions, among the SemanticResultFormats and Maps.

 Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] packaging and deployment time

2014-09-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Cool, thanks for the pointer!


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2014-09-27 14:47 GMT+03:00 Katie Filbert katie.filb...@wikimedia.de:

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni 
 amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:

 Hi,

 The following little change by myself was merged by Aude on September 9:
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/159070/

 As far as I can see, it is not deployed to Wikipedia yet.


 We deployed new code to test.wikidata on September 11 but had to revert
 due to caching issues there and then skipped deployment to wikidata.  Hence
 your patch, unfortunately, is not deployed yet.

 We will deploy on wikidata again on Tuesday since we had no issues this
 past Thursday on test.wikidata with our new code.


 It's not really urgent, but it made me curious: What is the deployment
 schedule for Wikidata extensions?


 We normally deploy every two weeks, except perhaps around holidays or
 Wikimania, we skip deployment.

 Our schedule is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment

 Cheers,

 Katie



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Re: [Wikidata-l] extensions not on translatewiki.net

2014-09-27 Thread P. Blissenbach
Hi Amir,

tere must be working exort scripts to github, since we translate e.g. etherpad 
lite,
which is maintained on github, and there are commits from translatewiki.net, 
see:
https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/tree/develop/src/locales

Purodha

Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote

Hi,
 
Several Wikidata-related extensions are not translatable on 
translatewiki.net[http://translatewiki.net].
 
The ones I could find are:
* Wikibase DataModel
* Wikibase DataModel JavaScript
* Wikidata build
* WikimediaBadges
* The various DataValues extensions
 
All extensions need at least a translatable description for Special:Version, 
and some of the above have actual messages to translate.
 
If I understand correctly, the reasons for this is that it's more comfortable 
for their developers to have the code review in GitHub, and translatewiki's 
MediaWiki extensions L10n export scripts work only with Gerrit. The question 
is, is it feasible to sync GitHub and Gerrit, so that these extensions would be 
easily translatable?
 
If I understand correctly, something like this is already done for some 
MediaWiki extensions, among the SemanticResultFormats and Maps.

Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] packaging and deployment time

2014-09-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

Katie Filbert, 27/09/2014 13:47:

It's not really urgent, but it made me curious: What is the
deployment schedule for Wikidata extensions?


We normally deploy every two weeks, except perhaps around holidays or
Wikimania, we skip deployment.

Our schedule is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikidata_deployment


It will perhaps be clearer like this:
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deploymentsdiff=128804oldid=128753

Nemo

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Re: [Wikidata-l] extensions not on translatewiki.net

2014-09-27 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)

P. Blissenbach, 27/09/2014 19:46:

tere must be working exort scripts to github, since we translate e.g. etherpad 
lite,
which is maintained on github, and there are commits from translatewiki.net, 
see:
https://github.com/ether/etherpad-lite/tree/develop/src/locales


That's not the l10n-bot operated by Raimond. Let's not forget that l10n 
updates rely on his daily work, which we should strive not to complicate 
further.


Nemo

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