Re: [Wikidata-l] Introduction and some questions on Wikidata

2012-11-15 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey Bernardo

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Bernardo Najlis b52@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

 My name is Bernardo and I work as a Business Intelligence Consultant in
 Toronto, Canada. I've been reading pretty much everything about WikiData
 over the past few days, and I'm really excited about this project! I would
 love to participate and collaborate in developing tools to bring data from
 external sources, particularly the vast open data sets that are so common
 right now.

Have you already seen
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Data_collaborators ?

 I have some questions about the project and how can I participate, that you
 might be able to help me with:

 1) I know the data import is planned for a future phase 2. Do you think it
 would be useful to start working on some of that now?

It really depends on what you want to do right now. But the technical
basis for actual data beyond language links isn't there yet so there
isn't too much to do.
People have already written bots to import language links that you
might want to have a look at.

 2) I also learned that you guys had a round table on June 21 about this
 topic (wish I could have known about Wikidata and been there!) but I
 couldn't find what the outcome of that discussion was. Is there anywhere
 where I can find what was discussed there?

Hmm I seem to remember there was an etherpad. Anyone who was there got a link?

 3) Is there anyone else on the list working on the subject of how to bring
 data in? I have some ideas on the subject, but again, don't know if this is
 too early in the project.

A first step would be to define what data exactly you've got in mind
and then get consensus in the community that this is something that is
wanted. I think it's a bit too early still though for the latter. A
real decision can probably only be made after the second phase has
been in use for a bit by editors with real data.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Introduction and some questions on Wikidata

2012-11-14 Thread Luca Martinelli
2012/11/15 Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckin...@wikipedia.at:
 First of all the priority lies on data already present on Wikipedia. Wikidata 
 should not be a data storage for everything structured in the world, so we 
 should first start to transfer data already present on Wikipedia to Wikidata.

 External data-sources will be interested as well and for sure but the purpose 
 of wikidata is still cenralizing of what we already have.

For the time being (i.e. until mid-2013), I assume.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] Introduction and some questions on Wikidata

2012-11-14 Thread Gregor Hagedorn
 First of all the priority lies on data already present on Wikipedia. Wikidata 
 should not be a data storage for everything structured in the world, so we 
 should first start to transfer data already present on Wikipedia to Wikidata.
 External data-sources will be interested as well and for sure but the purpose 
 of wikidata is still cenralizing of what we already have.

A side remark, because I believe this needs some further discussion. I
agree that Wikidata should be focusing on the kind of data Wikipedia
has or which are suitable for Wikipedia. However, since the Wikipedia
data are not systematically sourced (they may be unsourced or the
source is only available in edit comments, talk page etc.), it will be
very valuable to import relevant, sourced data that have the right
scope.

Gregor

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