Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Hoi,
I added Dutch labels. How can I refresh the data ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 19 May 2015 at 12:54, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
I didn't copy the templates over; try this (I just ran it though):
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/index.php?action=updatelang=nlpage=Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi,
I added Dutch labels. How can I refresh the data ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 19 May 2015 at 12:54, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
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On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the rollout. The next projects will be: * 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia * 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource Hey folks :) Next round has been done now. I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their articles. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the DVN
hier:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN
It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the article
portion, so not quite as useful as the same functionality on the enwiki,
but still way, WAY better than my old manual list.
Thanks Magnus!
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
I didn't copy the templates over; try this (I just ran it though):
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/index.php?action=updatelang=nlpage=Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
I added Dutch labels. How can I refresh the data ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 19 May 2015 at 12:54, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Magnus Manske
magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}} instead
of fixed text:
Thanks ;-)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
It doesn't do more than what you already have. If you want to do more
elaborate things you'll need to resort to Lua. We can think about
expanding the parser function. There were plans for this at the
beginning of the project. But for now we've tried to keep it simple.
Cheers
Lydia
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Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Dear Lydia, On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia Is there an overview of Dutch WP pages where it is being used? The Berlin/Germany use case experienced resistance, needed further discussion and consensus first? Has it been adopted on other Dutch pages? How was it received there? Egon -- E.L. Willighagen Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers ORCID: -0001-7542-0286 ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/EgonWillighagen ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Egon Willighagen egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Lydia, On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia Is there an overview of Dutch WP pages where it is being used? The Berlin/Germany use case experienced resistance, needed further discussion and consensus first? Has it been adopted on other Dutch pages? How was it received there? I don't think there is an overview. Maybe some of the nlwp editors who are on this list can chime in and give you links. It was understandably met with resistance on the page for Germany because it was changed by people outside that community in a high-profile article. We just need to let each community experiment with this at their own pace and let them find the right rules for how to use it. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Thanks! This is a really powerful tool
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
{{#property}} doesn't auto-link, apparently; switched item links back to
hand-crafted, now with links (updated yours already).
[sent from an airport restaurant...]
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:37 PM Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the
DVN hier:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN
It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the
article portion, so not quite as useful as the same functionality on the
enwiki, but still way, WAY better than my old manual list.
Thanks Magnus!
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Magnus Manske
magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
I didn't copy the templates over; try this (I just ran it though):
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/index.php?action=updatelang=nlpage=Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
I added Dutch labels. How can I refresh the data ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 19 May 2015 at 12:54, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Am 19.05.2015 um 16:19 schrieb Magnus Manske:
{{#property}} doesn't auto-link
Note that this is likely to change in the future.
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Lydia, thanks for your insights! Egon On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Egon Willighagen egon.willigha...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Lydia, On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia Is there an overview of Dutch WP pages where it is being used? The Berlin/Germany use case experienced resistance, needed further discussion and consensus first? Has it been adopted on other Dutch pages? How was it received there? I don't think there is an overview. Maybe some of the nlwp editors who are on this list can chime in and give you links. It was understandably met with resistance on the page for Germany because it was changed by people outside that community in a high-profile article. We just need to let each community experiment with this at their own pace and let them find the right rules for how to use it. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l -- E.L. Willighagen Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers ORCID: -0001-7542-0286 ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/EgonWillighagen ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
OK. Some things that would be useful for the list tool (and probably other
things as well):
* label of arbitary item
* local-wiki-linked (if available) label of arbitary item
* description of arbitary item
* qualifier values for arbitary item/property
Just sayin' ;-)
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:16 PM Lydia Pintscher
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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Magnus Manske
magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead
of fixed text:
Thanks ;-)
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
It doesn't do more than what you already have. If you want to do more
elaborate things you'll need to resort to Lua. We can think about
expanding the parser function. There were plans for this at the
beginning of the project. But for now we've tried to keep it simple.
Cheers
Lydia
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On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: OK. Some things that would be useful for the list tool (and probably other things as well): * label of arbitary item * local-wiki-linked (if available) label of arbitary item * description of arbitary item I think those all make sense. * qualifier values for arbitary item/property My gut feeling is that this is taking it a bit too far for the parser function. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
{{#property}} doesn't auto-link, apparently; switched item links back to
hand-crafted, now with links (updated yours already).
[sent from an airport restaurant...]
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:37 PM Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:
This is great! I just ran through the whole 1001 Vrouwen list of the DVN
hier:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Jane023/DVN
It seems to work fine, but there are no links for anything but the article
portion, so not quite as useful as the same functionality on the enwiki,
but still way, WAY better than my old manual list.
Thanks Magnus!
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Magnus Manske
magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote:
I didn't copy the templates over; try this (I just ran it though):
https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/index.php?action=updatelang=nlpage=Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
I added Dutch labels. How can I refresh the data ?
Thanks,
GerardM
On 19 May 2015 at 12:54, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Trying (on my user subpage!) Wikidata-based lists with {{#property}}
instead of fixed text:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Magnus_Manske/test1
Works (date columns only in this example), but could use improvement.
Are there more details on {{#property}} somwhere?
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:19 AM Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Lydia Pintscher
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey folks :)
The rollout of arbitrary access on Dutch Wikipedia and French
Wikisource seems to be going well so we're going to continue the
rollout. The next projects will be:
* 18. May: Farsi Wikipedia, English Wikivoyage, Hebrew Wikipedia
* 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource
Hey folks :)
Next round has been done now.
I have one request: Please do NOT go to those projects and try out
arbitrary access in their articles. Leave that to the local
communities. We want more projects to make use of Wikidata and not be
annoyed by random people coming to their projects and messing up their
articles.
Cheers
Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Hi Egon, The main use of the codes is to test it in the Wikidata sandbox or in the user sandboxes. Other usage is so far I know not implemented. The basic reason for that is that there is no consensus about the usage of Wikidata data in templates on the Dutch Wikipedia. The usage of properties in templates is considered a big change, and big changes need consensus first, as it is not easy to go back if it gives problems or unwanted situations, and it has impact on many users. The usage of the codes directly in articles is not the what parser functions are for, parser functions do not belong in articles. Usage of these codes directly in articles is not accepted. If there is consensus of using Wikidata, the question also will be where this would be welcome and where not. And also which data may be used. (In the past we had for example discussions about the number of inhabitants, and there it came up that CIA Factbook data is is not allowed for quality reasons.) Also some guidelines need to be defined to avoid problems and to assure quality. The focus of the Dutch community is (concerning Wikidata) currently mainly to get all the articles with basic statements on Wikidata. This we do by hand to make sure all the basic statements are actually there, as most of them can't simply be added by a bot. Also this makes sure that there are no/less duplicate items on Wikidata. As Wikidata is pretty new, most users need to get a bit acquaintanced with Wikidata in the first place. In April a user organised a voting, which resulted in the situation that all local interwikis have been removed from all the articles. This was completed in April. So we do not accept local interwikis any longer. When all local interwikis were gone, I wrote in the central discussion page a call for all users to add there articles on Wikidata + to add certain basic statements as described in the message. Since then, a group of local users is working on getting the number of not connected articles in Wikidata down. From the 4000+ unconnected articles already 75% have been done. At the same time, new articles have been checked for being linked on Wikidata. If users forget to add their article, we add their article for them on Wikidata and a personal message with basic information is added to the user talk page who created the articled. The message says that maybe you have been forgotten, or was still intending to add the article to Wikidata, then the message is not needed, but it is needed that the author of an article adds his/her article to Wikidata. In the message is also described why this is needed, where someone can find links, and how to add an article to Wikidata. There are two types of messages: one for users who should have added their article to an existing item (assuming the existing item already has the basic statements), and one for users who should have created a new item with the basic statements. The basic statements include *instance of* (for everything), (for places and objects:) *coordinates*, *country*, *located in the administrative territorial entity*, (for people:) *gender*, *date of birth*, *place of birth*, *date of death*, *place of death*, *occupation*, (music:) *performer*, *date of publication*, (animals/plants:) *taxon rank*, *taxon name*, *parent taxon*, and anywhere if exists: *Commons category*. These are the basic statements for the most written articles. With these statements it is possible in case of multiple items with the same label, to add a sitelink to the right item and to easily check if an item is added to the right item. By adding their own article for them to Wikidata with the basic statements, they have a good example (close to home) what is expected. We ask them with the next article to do it themselves. Also, something that is important, I say they can come to me with questions any time. Adding a sitelink mostly works (only 3 people do not want to do this or find it too difficult). All other users which have been informed, add their articles now to Wikidata, mostly, if they do not forget as they still get to be used to it more. Only authors that only write once in a while need to get informed. The last group of users, the new users, should then still be acquaintanced with Wikidata, but that is something that is probably only useful when they manage to write an article that follows the conventions of Wikipedia. But when informing the users about it is needed to add their articles to Wikidata, the most heard reaction is I didn't know. The second most heard reaction is that they do not find it easy or intuitive to get to Wikidata, add the article and add some statements. This feedback is given, but having users add their article on Wikidata is a great success. We notice that users like it to have someone who looks over their shoulder and helps when it is not added properly. In this way already some users have grown to do it completely by themselves. But I also see the signals of users that
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Lydia Pintscher, 13/05/2015 17:20: * 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource A great way for Italian Wikipedians to feast on the 2nb june, Festa della Repubblica! :) Nemo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
Re: [Wikidata-l] next 2 rounds of arbitrary access coming up
Is it possible to point to some examples how this can be used? I'd like to use it on wikivoyage. Jo On May 13, 2015 6:37 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Lydia Pintscher, 13/05/2015 17:20: * 1. June: Italian Wikipedia, all remaining Wikisource A great way for Italian Wikipedians to feast on the 2nb june, Festa della Repubblica! :) Nemo ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l ___ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
