Ok, here is what I will do. My various projects with people (math clubs, the
family multiplication study, "My young apprentice" and such) are starting
this and next week. We did make a resolution to do more community outreach
with some of the people and projects. So, I will offer dictionary making and
illustrating as an activity to everybody, which I will coordinate. The
"Examples" part can be the divergent part I am talking about. I will
describe the design of dictionary activities as we engage in them, so that
other groups and individuals can do them, too.

Leigh, I poked around the Wikibooks site you linked for a few minutes and
could not find anything particularly useful for this project. Well, nowhere
near the level of usefulness of math resources I would actually use, like
"Ask Dr. Math" from the Math Forum, Jeany Eather's Maths Dictionary,
Wolfram's Math World and Wikipedia. I could not see anything I would copy
and paste if people allowed me - everything would require major re-writes. I
also did not like the format of things I saw, at least not for a dictionary.
I bet I am missing something. What did you have in mind?

Gladys, who are other people and entities developing the dictionary,
deciding the layout and ultimately using it - the "we" you mention? You gave
a link to the project at some point, but it led to a big list of wiki
projects, not to your particular one.

Cheers,
MariaD

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Gladys Gahona <gladysgah...@gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Maria,
>
> The current math glossary we are developing has been concibed to be a
> resource addressing to secondary and terciary
> level (13 to 18 yr) students.
>
> In this stage of developing, We have already defined the layout,
> consisting of :
>
> - Definition (s)
> - Supplementary definition (wikipedia)
> - Examples
> - External Links
>
> As the amount of defined terms grow, we easily will be able to cross-
> refence them.
>
> We have just started to fill in some definitions and extending
> invitations to the WE community to join the project.
> Anyone can add their favorite definitons, this means we may have
> several definitions for each item.
>
> So far the glossary contains mostly plain text. I agree Well-designed
> animations (better if interactive) may help students learn faster and
> easier. The good news are we can put all kind of media for
> exemplificating each term. e.g. still images, animated gifs, flash
> animations, interactive flash animations, collaborative videos
> (kaltura), audio, etc.
>
> The limit is our imagination and the availability of free media we can
> cater from the web or from the creativity of volunteer graphic/flash
> designers. I am certain You have and idea on how expensive a simple
> pedagogical animation could be for each term definition (money &
> time). For example, please see
> http://www.wikieducator.org/MathGloss/A/Algebra.
> I authored the still image, and I easily could convert it to an
> animated gif, or even more... make a flash animation  (not
> interactive). But it would take time and we are talking about only for
> one picture.
>
> We still don't have a math glossary for grades (K-6). Maybe you can
> lead the WE project, which will have its appropiate layout. I gladly
> could assist you if you decide to take the initiative. Don't worry
> about colors, we can make a colorfull and interactive resource for the
> kids. The divergent part of your vision of math glossary, fits
> perfectly with the wiki platform.
>
> In any case, we will need a growing collection of media (I love flash
> interactive animations), and a huge band of WikiEducators commited
> with the projects. They absolutely will give added value to any
> resource we develop for WE.
>
> We also count with a "geek team" in WE, who can solve all the
> technical issues we may face on the way to develop a well
> diferenciated and pedagogical resource for both levels. (a new
> glossary for kids and the existing one).
>
> Leigh has linked the math books collection alocated in Wikibooks. I
> personally like the Wikibook site,  I am linking many glossary terms
> to a wikibook page. I think we can take advantage of the already
> developed contents in order to not being redundant. Wiktionary offers
> its own definitions but from a different scope, so I think a Math
> Glossary is still a
> good and helpfull resource for WE.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Gladys Gahona
> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Chela5808
>
> Note: I apologize in advance for any english grammar mistake. I am on
> my way to improve my english :-).
>
> On 5 ene, 18:00, "Maria Droujkova" <droujk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can we mass-populate this from an existing math dictionary? If we are
> > creating it from scratch, what are we doing that distinguishes it from
> all
> > other math dictionaries created until now? If it's just the format, we
> can
> > get a robot to re-format stuff for us, I bet. Failing that, kids ::evil
> > grin::
> >
> > We played a game with kids called "definition war" devoted to creating
> > definitions. Kids take turns creating definitions and then objecting
> (they
> > love yelling "Objection!" like Ace Attorney) and then fixing definitions,
> > etc. It takes about half an hour to make a good definition.
> >
> > For my part, I am yet to see a good definition of multiplication in any
> > dictionary. By "good" I mean both pedagogically sound and mathematically
> > rigorous, and including enough models of multiplication at least to cover
> > all major number types. "Repeated addition" kinda fails for Pi*e
> >
> > For "Angle", I rather like this dictionary's definition:
> http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/jeather/maths/dictionary.html
> > It has an applet, a chart, and a bright frame around it all. How can we
> > improve on it? We can use this idea of angles in nature and culture - a
> > collection, open for people's additions... That's beyond a plain
> > "dictionary" though!
> >
> > I can imagine a format with a convergent and a divergent part. The
> > convergent part is a short definition people can refine and improve. The
> > divergent part, potentially infinite, is where everybody adds their
> > pictures, poetry, movies and what not, illustrating the definition.
> > Something like my MultArt, for each topic. A good model for that, which
> is a
> > lot of fun, is a wiki called TV Tropes:
> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePageIt has a trope
> > description, and then an open collection of examples.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > MariaD
>
>

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