[WikiEducator] Happy
I am happy to share with you that our student Ruchika Pokhriyal of Bio Medical Sciences will represent the Indian Youth at the COP 15 - The United Nations Convention on Climate Change' in Copenhagen, Denmark from December 7 - 18, 2009. This is because she won the 'First Prize ' in the Senior Section of the 'Prithvi Ratna National Essay Writing Competition for Youth on Climate Change' conducted by the Ministry of Environment and Forests and the WWF (World Wide Fund for Nature)-India. We are indeed proud to share this information with you ! I am glad that motto 'beyond the classroom' that we adopted for the college is bringing in dividends. With regards, -- डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह प्रधानाचार्य आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी नयी दिल्ली 110019 Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Happy
रुचिका पोखरियाल के बाते में जानकार अच्छा लगा! हमारी शुभकामनाएं! सादर प्रवीण त्रिवेदी ╬ PRAVEEN TRIVEDIhttp://www.google.com/profiles/praveentrivedi009 प्राइमरी का मास्टर http://primarykamaster.blogspot.com/ फतेहपुर http://fatehpurcity.blogspot.com/ +91 -9415482584 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.comwrote: I am happy to share with you that our student Ruchika Pokhriyal of Bio Medical Sciences will represent the Indian Youth at the COP 15 - The United Nations Convention on Climate Change' in Copenhagen, Denmark from December 7 - 18, 2009. This is because she won the 'First Prize ' in the Senior Section of the 'Prithvi Ratna National Essay Writing Competition for Youth on Climate Change' conducted by the Ministry of Environment and Forests and the WWF (World Wide Fund for Nature)-India. We are indeed proud to share this information with you ! I am glad that motto 'beyond the classroom' that we adopted for the college is bringing in dividends. With regards, -- डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह प्रधानाचार्य आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी नयी दिल्ली 110019 Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Uganda page on WikiEducator
Hi Marc, I went over to COL's website, and found a link - and now have placed it on the page you are talking about http://www.wikieducator.org/ICT4Africa/Country_Report_Uganda Let me know if that works. - Randy On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Marc Lepage marc.lep...@gmail.com wrote: wow, that's a super quick reply.. thanks! well, the page says the content will come in.. 2007! so not much I could use there! marc 2009/11/16 Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com Hi Marc, Why do you say no luck - what's the problem? You have to login, you know - Randy On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Marc marc.lep...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings from The Hague! With a few other Dutch organisations, we just prepared a brief report/ analysis on ICT for Education in Uganda - I was hoping to be able to use/update http://www.wikieducator.org/ICT4Africa/Country_Report_Uganda but.. no luck! The next round of research will be completed by the end of June 2007, and a new draft of this country report will be released by infoDev and COL soon thereafter. mmhhh.. Best, marc -- Marc Lepage Country Manager International Institute for Communication and Development (IICD) P.O. Box 11586, 2502 AN The Hague, The Netherlands Visitors: Raamweg 5, 2596 HL The Hague Phone:+31-70-311 73 11 Mobile:+31-6-3479 16 73 / +256-77 293 0825 www.iicd.org www.iconnect-online.org People - ICT - Development -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: I'm sorry, HOW much?
Dear Steve, Are you talking of the sense of social resposibilty in some of the people from developing countries might have so far as the development of open/ free education resources is concerned? Ellpee, Jaipur, India On Nov 16, 8:06 pm, Steve Foerster st...@hiresteve.com wrote: Thanks for all the great responses! Valerie, your observation that your colleagues are unwilling to consider a curricular resource that doesn't cost a ton of money or have a gigantic hype machine behind it struck a chord, because I've seen the same behavior. My work experience has only been supporting faculty members in the U.S., so I'm not sure if it's just a problem there, but I suppose I doubt it. It reminds me of Wayne's observation that real innovation in this area will come from the developing world. When people don't have the luxury of silly prejudices about the financial provenance of their content, and have to focus on using what actually works, then those barriers can come down. Also, I wanted to echo what Wayne said about copyright of materials produced by faculty members. At least in the U.S., one of the most important factors here is what the faculty has negotiated with the university as part of their contract. That means you can see variation on a school-by-school basis. -=Steve=- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Happy
रुचिका पोखरियाल को बहुत बहुत बधाई विजेंद्र On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Savithri Singh singh.savit...@gmail.comwrote: I am happy to share with you that our student Ruchika Pokhriyal of Bio Medical Sciences will represent the Indian Youth at the COP 15 - The United Nations Convention on Climate Change' in Copenhagen, Denmark from December 7 - 18, 2009. This is because she won the 'First Prize ' in the Senior Section of the 'Prithvi Ratna National Essay Writing Competition for Youth on Climate Change' conducted by the Ministry of Environment and Forests and the WWF (World Wide Fund for Nature)-India. We are indeed proud to share this information with you ! I am glad that motto 'beyond the classroom' that we adopted for the college is bringing in dividends. With regards, -- डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह प्रधानाचार्य आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी नयी दिल्ली 110019 Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
Hi Chris, A pleasure speaking with you - it's a great idea for a project With your assistance, I've set up a space on WikiEducator so that you can get started! http://www.wikieducator.org/Assessment_and_Evaluation Cheers, - Randy On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Chris Babowal bab...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Wayne, I have been thinking about how to empower people who teach. The biggest hurdles teachers face is 'standards and assessments.' No matter who develops the standards, publishers are in control of the assessments. I suggest that we work together to put together materials that meet the standards we, as teachers, feel are important. Then make create appropriate evaluation tools that will promote the standards that we as a group feel are most appropriate for our teaching field and promote our teachers by providing quality evaluation tools for demonstrating our teaching skill levels. As the president of a testing organization, I feel I have at least some of the skills required to assist in developing some of the assessment tools and Moodle/Soodle can provide at least the starting software required for dissemination. For areas which require human grading, we have loads of teachers to call on and thus can make these tools more worldwide and very inexpensive. Program evaluation is mainly surveys and testing results, thus putting together this component will also be the same as assessment tools. There are also lots of public domain information that can help supplement the project. Testing, assessment tools and evaluation has to have statistics and quality control, which is very different than what Wikieducator does now, but can be achieved by committees and surveys. I hope this is an idea that will take off. I am willing to spearhead the project if it is appropriate for wikieducation. Chris Babowal President Babowal Associates, Inc. 2588 Pioneer Ave. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo Business Tel: (408) 874-6774 Cell: (408)504-8899 -- *From:* Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com *To:* wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Fri, November 13, 2009 4:52:44 PM *Subject:* [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? Chris -- Exactly! Give educators a space where they can act --- and the impossible seems achievable. Great quote! Cheers Wayne 2009/11/14 Chris Babowal bab...@sbcglobal.net Wayne, I like a quote: The great aim of education is not knowledge, but action. Herbert Spenser I think this actually describes wiki. Chris Babowal President Babowal Associates, Inc. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899 -- *From:* Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com *To:* WikiEducator wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Fri, November 13, 2009 3:38:49 PM *Subject:* [WE Teacher Collaboration] WE believe in education - So where is all the free content? Hi Everyone, A brief moment to reflect. Education is an act of sharing knowledge freely. So where are all the free education materials that we can adapt, modify and reuse without restriction? Why has humanity taken so long in achieving a free knowledge base for us to share for the common good of education and society? Why are the majority of our global population under served when it comes to education? To paraphrase Bob Dylan: How many years [can the closed copyright] mountain exist Before it's washed to the sea? Yes, 'n' how many years can some [educators] exist Before they're allowed to be free? Yes, 'n' how many times can [we] turn our [heads], Pretending [we] just don't see? The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind, The answer is blowin' in the wind. The value proposition of sharing digital teaching materials is a no-brainer. Getting back to Dylan's refrain The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind has been described as impenetrably ambiguous: either the answer is so obvious it is right in your face, or the answer is as intangible as the wind (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowin%27_in_the_Wind) I started WikiEducator as a project to collaborate with the free culture movement to develop digital teaching materials in support of every national curriculum by 2015. (If we're a little late, 2017 will be just fine :-) ). - Yesterday, WE were a top 59K site (Alexa). - During October, WE generated more than 10.5 million hits on our site with a full-time staff of two people. - WE train and build wiki skills for thousands of teachers in more than 110 countries -- thanks to a dedicated team of facilitators who share knowledge freely. - WE have developed more content pages than Wikiversity (with only 6% of the number of the registered users compared to WV) - WE can now work internationally,
[WikiEducator] Re: Uganda page on WikiEducator
Hi Marc, The funders of this project were regrettably not comfortable with an open research model. However, the wiki keeps track of all edits. So you will be able to access older versions of the report text taking into account that this will not be the most recent and or official version of the report. Just click on the history tab and you will be able to access older versions. Fortunately the Creative Commons License is irrevocable, and you are free to use older versions of these reports. Hope this helps. Cheers Wayne 2009/11/17 Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com Hi Marc, I went over to COL's website, and found a link - and now have placed it on the page you are talking about http://www.wikieducator.org/ICT4Africa/Country_Report_Uganda Let me know if that works. - Randy On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Marc Lepage marc.lep...@gmail.comwrote: wow, that's a super quick reply.. thanks! well, the page says the content will come in.. 2007! so not much I could use there! marc 2009/11/16 Randy Fisher wikira...@gmail.com Hi Marc, Why do you say no luck - what's the problem? You have to login, you know - Randy On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Marc marc.lep...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings from The Hague! With a few other Dutch organisations, we just prepared a brief report/ analysis on ICT for Education in Uganda - I was hoping to be able to use/update http://www.wikieducator.org/ICT4Africa/Country_Report_Uganda but.. no luck! The next round of research will be completed by the end of June 2007, and a new draft of this country report will be released by infoDev and COL soon thereafter. mmhhh.. Best, marc -- Marc Lepage Country Manager International Institute for Communication and Development (IICD) P.O. Box 11586, 2502 AN The Hague, The Netherlands Visitors: Raamweg 5, 2596 HL The Hague Phone:+31-70-311 73 11 Mobile:+31-6-3479 16 73 / +256-77 293 0825 www.iicd.org www.iconnect-online.org People - ICT - Development -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource. Randy Fisher, MA, OMD Senior Consultant Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada Senior Consultant, Organization Business Development International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org +1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST) Skype: wikirandy Twitter: wikirandy * Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management Performance * Organization Design Development * Sustainable Project Implementation Community-Building * E-Learning, Online Collaboration Communities of Practice * Coaching Facilitation * My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Board of Directors, OER Foundation. Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WE believe in education - So where is all the free content?
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Jan Visser jvis...@learndev.org wrote: Wayne and Kirby (others?), I agree regarding OLPC and the (limited) practice emerging from it. It’s a different use of the technology than what’s normally being done. Papert’s work from a long time ago is, I assume, still an inspiration for those alternative uses. It’s therefore different also from the underlying philosophy of WE and most OER initiatives. Greetings Jan -- OLPC is a fairly esoteric and futuristic project, is helping drive down the cost of laptops by turning them into netbooks. The XO-2 has an even smaller form factor. The XO comes pre-loaded with some educational materials, otherwise has a rather ordinary Mozilla-based web browser. This idea of one laptop per child (1:1 ratio) is not the development model in many ecosystems, and can't be presumed by every curriculum writer. As someone who works around the Python subculture, I'm linked to OLPC in the sense that the default user interface is implemented in the Python language, as are many of the activities. The machine also knows FORTH. I just upgraded one of the XOs the other night, getting some expert assistance. My other one is still running a rather ancient version of the RedHat system. I was in a long meeting with Alan Kay fairly recently in London, courtesy of Mark Shuttleworth. Guido van Rossum, the inventor of Python, was also at this meeting. We agreed that many educational initiatives are orthogonal to OLPC meaning great if there's a 1:1 ratio, but we're prepared for other contingencies. I took a look at the freedom toaster. I’m not sure if I understood the concept well. How is this different from just building your own computer or acquiring one built by others and having it at an affordable price, loading it with whatever you want to load it with? I’m thinking of places where I worked in remote regions in the DRC. Schools with nothing. Stones for kids to sit on; a piece of blackened scrap wood to write on as a chalk board; teachers and students with no access whatsoever to even the most basic sources of information; no electricity supply, except for the occasional portable generator if at all. Preloaded OERs would have to be transported with the device that contains them from wherever there is a possibility to upload them (the nearest village or small town with (irregular) Internet access and basic electricity supply to where they are actually needed. That may involve someone having to walk for half a day, carrying some small device, like an iPod, with all the stuff on it and requiring no more than a photovoltaic charger or something of that kind to run it. An iPod-sized screen may not be ideal for reading, but it may work. Somewhat larger devices (Archos, electronic book readers) might do a better job. The idea of a Freedom Toaster is its a filling station for static media such as CDs and DVDs. You may not have easy Internet access but if you go to a freedom toaster you can legally burn all manner of digital assets to sharable media. I don't know to what extent said Toasters are themselves self updating. Juke boxes (music players) in some public places now phone home for the current music, don't sport any disks locally. Content must be thought of having the available technology in mind. If reading extensive documents from a small screen is not an option and printing out documents is also impossible, audio perhaps is a possibility. Or audio files enhanced with sketchy verbal and graphic information. Surprisingly or not, cell phones—shared by many—are in those circumstances often more likely to be found than any other piece of transportable hardware. If they are of the kind that is capable of uploading and playing songs, their memory capacity could also be used for uploading learning resources in audio format. Just an idea. My main point is that circumstances vary widely and there has been little progress so far in preparing the local environment to be able to explore creatively the (limited) technological resources available. From what I have seen of it, OLPC is possibly one of the global initiatives best placed to foster such development at the local level. Thoughts? Freedom Toasters could easily contain copyleft audio books etc., not sure to what extent they already do as we don't have any of said toasters in my neck of the woods (Pacific Northwest near 45th parallel, Seattle's longitude), think we ought to, maybe by the next Open Source Conference (OSCON 2010)? We do have a lot of XOs around, plus billboards for G1G1 (the give one get one campaign, where you pay for two, donate one to the program). http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3224155740/sizes/l/ (example poster from a previous run) Kirby Jan -- Jan Visser, Ph.D. President Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org Check out: http://www.learndev.org and
[WikiEducator] Re: Wikipedia model
For example, WikiEducator and Wikiversity may be perceived by some as competing projects -- but I don't buy into this rational. We are all collaborating as nodes in the free culture network contributing towards the vision of free access to the world's knowledge. YO! It seems to me that we should work towards facilitating the connections and remix opportunities among open content projects. This is a key strategic focus of the OER Foundation -- namely to facilitate the evolution of the OER ecosystem. Our work in building OER content interoperability between Connexions and Mediawiki software being a prime example. I agree -- alliances, partnerships and technology infrastructure are the gaps we need to resolve :-) Just going through the WE 'operational' page, and seeing that Marketing is the next step. One required bridge, as I see it, is between this lovely community of content creators and their peers who prefer other tools, and the geeks (Ok, engineers). You'll know in my mind this comes down to the geeks in NREN, so I'll point you at what i think is going to be the hub of my geekish universe next year. http://www.terena.org/activities/compendium/ (Bottom of the page) Terena seem to be place for me, primarily because Amsterdam and Spain are nice places and their NREN's speak a bunch of languages. (should be a challenge) Anglos always miss the rest of the world. WE is primarily in the text and graphics space, but I'm an old audio/ video engineer and real time' needs a lot more work between NREN's than the web stuff, particularly as sometimes you'll want to skype and other times, run an Accessgrid conference. (and the difference between the two is just allocating bandwidth) I know that WE is in the edu space, whereas from what I'm picking up, the real driver is coming from the .gov area. (Inclusion is the catchcry around the global traps. Digital Engagement is the slogan). Let me point you at this one. http://www.terena.org/activities/media/ws2/programme.html It's about media. If you look around at their other taskforces you'll see their PR and marketing people are crossing into this (media management) space. Another is trying to get the common service portfolios aligned. http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-msp/meetings/20090915/ They need to get a handle on the WE's of this world rather than the institutionally centric old farts. I'm really going to need a few WE people to make them culturally aware (sharing a blog over there would help the conservative euros get their head around the WE paradigm, and being sociable). This will give you an idea of a tool which might be useful to the WE (and WMF) communties. http://www.global-project.eu/ (Hit the link to the virtual conference centre) to get some idea of what the guys down at Madrid uni are putting together. There are lots of others of course. But i think you'll find that the idea of global groups will begin to form into subject specific hubs before too long, rather than just single tools. The idea of running (A/web/V) conferences in a domain - broadcasting, streaming, and keeping the recordings where they are broadcast from would seem to be a common requirement. So i hope you're talking to KAREN. Sooner or later we'll have to start running a few global workshops and see if we can't get the conversations happening. BTW. We're starting to see a thing called distributed conferences starting i.e. 3 sites with local groups and 1 agenda. Would be nice to see the WMF/WE run a few for their strategy. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---