Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator
Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -Original Message- From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil, I think it would be better to provide a clear link to the published (non-editable) version. The CC license permits editing and improvements so there is no need to lock editing in my view. Wayne On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patricia, GREAT!!! A BIG THANK YOU!!! One suggestion, as these are approved documents, we may place a template to request readers to avoid direct editing of the content since it is an approved document and to add suggestions/comments on the discussion pages. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear All, ** ** Please note that the following joint COL UNESCO OER publications are now available on WikiEducator: ** ** *A Basic Guide for Open Educational Resources (OER)* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/A_Basic_Guide_for_OER/Home ** ** *Guidelines for Open Educational Resources For Higher Education* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/Guidelines_for_Open_Educational_Resources_for_Higher_Education/Home ** ** Warm wishes Patricia ** ** *Patricia Schlicht* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Warm regards Anil http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad http://www.apletters.blogspot.com -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Warm regards Anil http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad http://www.apletters.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WikiEducator] reluctance of using wiki
HI Kathreen, Me too like this discussion. I'm currently compiling a questionnaire to send to University of Mauritius academics to see whether (if at all) they are aware of OERs and using them and collaborating . I hope to be surprised, given that we've had many OER-related workshops..but nothing has taken off seriously enough, ..and yes will add the appreciative enquiry method for my classes Thanks for that and the Wooboard too..Looks fun! Sandhya On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Kathleen Zarubin rtola...@gmail.comwrote: I often wish I could ‘like’ a post to this group ... and this is one of those times [image: Smile] *From:* Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:18 PM *To:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [WikiEducator] reluctance of using wiki Dear Ntsoaki, Congratulations on your new role as Knowledge Manager at SAQA -- I'm sure you are excited to tackle new opportunities and challenges. Based on our experiences providing free training opportunities to thousands of educators worldwide, I have found that very often the reluctance to use wiki technology has less to do with learning how to use wikis, but more to do with the fears and uncertainties of collaborating in an open environment. So its important to focus on explaining the benefits of collaborative authoring and to illustrate the features in the wiki which provide an accurate history of every edit and how we can monitor progress on wiki pages. Above all -- we are a community. If any editor has questions, they should not be shy to ask, We are here to help. Wayne On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Ntsoaki nts...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have just been appointed as a Knowledge Manager at SAQA (South African Qualification Authority). My main responsibility is to design, develop and execute knowledge management strategies that will enable CAS (Career Advice Services) our unit to have access to high quality up-to-date information that is easily accessible and will enhance our business success. In light with that we have different tools such as Wiki, website and other internal systems that we are using to facilitate that process. However we are facing a challenging situation whereby our staff members are reluctant to use Wiki or share information on it because they believe it is difficult to navigate or to find information there. I have been tasked to conduct a workshop/training for our staff member to have a positive response towards Wiki so that they should be willing and confidently use Wiki as our knowledge base. I am also new on Wiki and currently familiarising myself with it hence I assigned myself to wiki tutorials and the forums to get a better understanding around the subject. Any pointers on how to convince my colleagues that Wiki is they way to go, I find it interesting and convenient for the purpose of our project, the trick is how do I get my colleagues by the idea. Thanks Ntsoaki Kala -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send
RE: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator
Dear Anil, In my personal view your suggestion, to want to develop a policy, to prevent cc-by and cc-by-sa originals and derivatives from any changes, would defeat the purpose of these copyright licenses, but I know what you are saying. I also appreciate the fact that you want to differ between an original version and an upgrade, so I suggest the following: 1. We would as Wayne already suggested insert the link to a pdf document, this way, keeping the original as is; and 2. We could insert another Tab in the book template, to enable our community to suggest changes under the book headers, by chapter. This way, any changes can be documented, provided our editors enter them. This would need to be monitored. 3. Advantage: The book will be updated and added-value to. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Anil Cheers, Patricia From: Anil Prasad [mailto:aplett...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:41 AM To: Patricia Schlicht Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -Original Message- From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil, I think it would be better to provide a clear link to the published (non-editable) version. The CC license permits editing and improvements so there is no need to lock editing in my view. Wayne On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patricia, GREAT!!! A BIG THANK YOU!!! One suggestion, as these are approved documents, we may place a template to request readers to avoid direct editing of the content since it is an approved document and to add suggestions/comments on the discussion pages. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.orgwrote: Dear All, ** ** Please note that the following joint COL UNESCO OER publications are now available on WikiEducator: ** ** *A Basic Guide for Open Educational Resources (OER)* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/A_Basic_Guide_for_OER/Home ** ** *Guidelines for Open Educational Resources For Higher Education* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/Guidelines_for_Open_Educational_Resources_for_Hi gher_Education/Home ** ** Warm wishes Patricia ** ** *Patricia Schlicht* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Warm regards Anil http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad http://www.apletters.blogspot.com -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to
Re: [WikiEducator] reluctance of using wiki
http://nz.wikieducator.org/Mauritius On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Sandhya Gunness simplysa...@gmail.comwrote: HI Kathreen, Me too like this discussion. I'm currently compiling a questionnaire to send to University of Mauritius academics to see whether (if at all) they are aware of OERs and using them and collaborating . I hope to be surprised, given that we've had many OER-related workshops..but nothing has taken off seriously enough, ..and yes will add the appreciative enquiry method for my classes Thanks for that and the Wooboard too..Looks fun! Sandhya On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Kathleen Zarubin rtola...@gmail.comwrote: I often wish I could ‘like’ a post to this group ... and this is one of those times [image: Smile] *From:* Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:18 PM *To:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [WikiEducator] reluctance of using wiki Dear Ntsoaki, Congratulations on your new role as Knowledge Manager at SAQA -- I'm sure you are excited to tackle new opportunities and challenges. Based on our experiences providing free training opportunities to thousands of educators worldwide, I have found that very often the reluctance to use wiki technology has less to do with learning how to use wikis, but more to do with the fears and uncertainties of collaborating in an open environment. So its important to focus on explaining the benefits of collaborative authoring and to illustrate the features in the wiki which provide an accurate history of every edit and how we can monitor progress on wiki pages. Above all -- we are a community. If any editor has questions, they should not be shy to ask, We are here to help. Wayne On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Ntsoaki nts...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I have just been appointed as a Knowledge Manager at SAQA (South African Qualification Authority). My main responsibility is to design, develop and execute knowledge management strategies that will enable CAS (Career Advice Services) our unit to have access to high quality up-to-date information that is easily accessible and will enhance our business success. In light with that we have different tools such as Wiki, website and other internal systems that we are using to facilitate that process. However we are facing a challenging situation whereby our staff members are reluctant to use Wiki or share information on it because they believe it is difficult to navigate or to find information there. I have been tasked to conduct a workshop/training for our staff member to have a positive response towards Wiki so that they should be willing and confidently use Wiki as our knowledge base. I am also new on Wiki and currently familiarising myself with it hence I assigned myself to wiki tutorials and the forums to get a better understanding around the subject. Any pointers on how to convince my colleagues that Wiki is they way to go, I find it interesting and convenient for the purpose of our project, the trick is how do I get my colleagues by the idea. Thanks Ntsoaki Kala -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum:
Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator
Dear Patricia, In simple terms my suggestion was,s to have a policy to provide a space for keeping CC-BY and CC-BY-SA original works/documents :) I think, in no way, it defeat the CC freedoms On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.orgwrote: Dear Anil, ** ** In my personal view your suggestion, to want to develop a policy, to prevent cc-by and cc-by-sa originals and derivatives from any changes, would defeat the purpose of these copyright licenses, but I know what you are saying. I also appreciate the fact that you want to differ between an original version and an upgrade, so I suggest the following: ** ** **1. **We would as Wayne already suggested insert the link to a pdf document, this way, keeping the original as is; and **2. **We could insert another Tab in the book template, to enable our community to suggest changes under the book headers, by chapter. This way, any changes can be documented, provided our editors enter them. This would need to be monitored. **3. **Advantage: The book will be updated and added-value to. ** ** Let me know what you think. Thanks, Anil Cheers, Patricia ** ** *From:* Anil Prasad [mailto:aplett...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:41 AM *To:* Patricia Schlicht *Cc:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator ** ** Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -Original Message- From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil, I think it would be better to provide a clear link to the published (non-editable) version. The CC license permits editing and improvements so there is no need to lock editing in my view. Wayne On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patricia, GREAT!!! A BIG THANK YOU!!! One suggestion, as these are approved documents, we may place a template to request readers to avoid direct editing of the content since it is an approved document and to add suggestions/comments on the discussion pages. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear All, ** ** Please note that the following joint COL UNESCO OER publications are now available on WikiEducator: ** ** *A Basic Guide for Open Educational Resources (OER)* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/A_Basic_Guide_for_OER/Home ** ** *Guidelines for Open Educational Resources For Higher Education* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/Guidelines_for_Open_Educational_Resources_for_Higher_Education/Home ** ** Warm wishes Patricia ** ** *Patricia Schlicht* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com -- Warm regards Anil http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad http://www.apletters.blogspot.com -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New
Re: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator
Hi Anil Thanks for your suggestion. In this instance, your objective has been achieved. There is already a static versions available for download from multiple sites, so no need for a policy decision in my view. Moreover, there are other sites which can accommodate static versions of publications like this including the recently announced UNESCO OER portal. The time and effort to constitute an official WIkiEducator Workgrouphttp://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Workgroups/Guidelines to develop a policy proposal for static versions of documents published by third parties would appear to be unproductive use of community time. Thoughts? Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Patricia, In simple terms my suggestion was,s to have a policy to provide a space for keeping CC-BY and CC-BY-SA original works/documents :) I think, in no way, it defeat the CC freedoms On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.orgwrote: Dear Anil, ** ** In my personal view your suggestion, to want to develop a policy, to prevent cc-by and cc-by-sa originals and derivatives from any changes, would defeat the purpose of these copyright licenses, but I know what you are saying. I also appreciate the fact that you want to differ between an original version and an upgrade, so I suggest the following: ** ** **1. **We would as Wayne already suggested insert the link to a pdf document, this way, keeping the original as is; and **2. **We could insert another Tab in the book template, to enable our community to suggest changes under the book headers, by chapter. This way, any changes can be documented, provided our editors enter them. This would need to be monitored. **3. **Advantage: The book will be updated and added-value to. ** ** Let me know what you think. Thanks, Anil Cheers, Patricia ** ** *From:* Anil Prasad [mailto:aplett...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:41 AM *To:* Patricia Schlicht *Cc:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator ** ** Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -Original Message- From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil, I think it would be better to provide a clear link to the published (non-editable) version. The CC license permits editing and improvements so there is no need to lock editing in my view. Wayne On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patricia, GREAT!!! A BIG THANK YOU!!! One suggestion, as these are approved documents, we may place a template to request readers to avoid direct editing of the content since it is an approved document and to add suggestions/comments on the discussion pages. On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear All, ** ** Please note that the following joint COL UNESCO OER publications are now available on WikiEducator: ** ** *A Basic Guide for Open Educational Resources (OER)* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/A_Basic_Guide_for_OER/Home ** ** *Guidelines for Open Educational Resources For Higher Education* ** ** http://wikieducator.org/Guidelines_for_Open_Educational_Resources_for_Higher_Education/Home ** ** Warm wishes Patricia ** ** *Patricia
[WikiEducator] Re: [OERU] Good news! Free Copyright course early in 2012 -- Cast your vote to choose your preferred date
Thanks Cable, Of course -- participation from Creative Commons would be VERY useful. You guys were actively involved in assisting with the development of the Creative Commons Unpluggedhttp://wikieducator.org/Creative_Commons_unplugged/Introductiontutorial. Once we've fixed the date -- We'd appreciate support from CC in helping to get the word out. Seeing as you are in a generous mood ;-) How about the Director of Global Learning joining the team as a facilitator. Appreciate the support, Cable. Thanks Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Cable Green ca...@creativecommons.orgwrote: Well done. New Zealand leads the way once again! Creative Commons is happy to participate if useful. Cable Green Director of Global Learning Creative Commons (mobile) On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Excellent news! Ako Aotearoa, New Zealand's National Centre for Tertiary Teaching Excellence will be sponsoring the OER Foundation to facilitate a free online workshop on open content licensing for educators. This workshop will be open for all educators worldwide. Ako Aotearoa is a strategic partner member of the OER Foundation. The workshop is to be scheduled early in the new year. Our first step is to select the best date by popular vote. You will find more information here: http://wikieducator.org/Open_content_licensing_for_educators/2012_poll Please cast your vote by the close of business on 9 December 2011. We will communicate the final dates on the lists hosted by the OER Foundation and then commence with self-registrations for the workshop. -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
[WikiEducator] Re: [OERU] Good news! Free Copyright course early in 2012 -- Cast your vote to choose your preferred date
Fantastic! Thanks Cable. We have a deal! Let's learn together as we collabOERate. W On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Cable Green ca...@creativecommons.orgwrote: Yes. CC is happy to help advertise when you have a date. I'm also happy to help facilitate... but am mostly eager to learn along with everyone else. Cable On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Cable, Of course -- participation from Creative Commons would be VERY useful. You guys were actively involved in assisting with the development of the Creative Commons Unpluggedhttp://wikieducator.org/Creative_Commons_unplugged/Introductiontutorial. Once we've fixed the date -- We'd appreciate support from CC in helping to get the word out. Seeing as you are in a generous mood ;-) How about the Director of Global Learning joining the team as a facilitator. Appreciate the support, Cable. Thanks Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Cable Green ca...@creativecommons.orgwrote: Well done. New Zealand leads the way once again! Creative Commons is happy to participate if useful. Cable Green Director of Global Learning Creative Commons (mobile) On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Excellent news! Ako Aotearoa, New Zealand's National Centre for Tertiary Teaching Excellence will be sponsoring the OER Foundation to facilitate a free online workshop on open content licensing for educators. This workshop will be open for all educators worldwide. Ako Aotearoa is a strategic partner member of the OER Foundation. The workshop is to be scheduled early in the new year. Our first step is to select the best date by popular vote. You will find more information here: http://wikieducator.org/Open_content_licensing_for_educators/2012_poll Please cast your vote by the close of business on 9 December 2011. We will communicate the final dates on the lists hosted by the OER Foundation and then commence with self-registrations for the workshop. -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected
[WikiEducator] Re: [OERU] Good news! Free Copyright course early in 2012 -- Cast your vote to choose your preferred date
Hi Tom, Glad we can help. A return favour for all the Open Course Library materials we are going to be using in the OER university initiative. So timing works well for your Feb training sessions. W On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Tom Caswell caswell@gmail.com wrote: This could be VERY useful for our next phase of Open Course Library faculty and staff (approx. 30 people). We will be training them in early Feb. and copyright is a critical component. Thank you for your kind offer. Tom -- Tom Caswell Open Education Policy Associate, SBCTC (w) http://opencourselibrary.org (p) 360-747-7301 (b) http://tomcaswell.com (t) @tom4cam On Dec 1, 2011 8:48 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Cable, Of course -- participation from Creative Commons would be VERY useful. You guys were actively involved in assisting with the development of the Creative Commons Unpluggedhttp://wikieducator.org/Creative_Commons_unplugged/Introductiontutorial. Once we've fixed the date -- We'd appreciate support from CC in helping to get the word out. Seeing as you are in a generous mood ;-) How about the Director of Global Learning joining the team as a facilitator. Appreciate the support, Cable. Thanks Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Cable Green ca...@creativecommons.orgwrote: Well done. New Zealand leads the way once again! Creative Commons is happy to participate if useful. Cable Green Director of Global Learning Creative Commons (mobile) On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Excellent news! Ako Aotearoa, New Zealand's National Centre for Tertiary Teaching Excellence will be sponsoring the OER Foundation to facilitate a free online workshop on open content licensing for educators. This workshop will be open for all educators worldwide. Ako Aotearoa is a strategic partner member of the OER Foundation. The workshop is to be scheduled early in the new year. Our first step is to select the best date by popular vote. You will find more information here: http://wikieducator.org/Open_content_licensing_for_educators/2012_poll Please cast your vote by the close of business on 9 December 2011. We will communicate the final dates on the lists hosted by the OER Foundation and then commence with self-registrations for the workshop. -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at
[WikiEducator] Re: [OERU] Good news! Free Copyright course early in 2012 -- Cast your vote to choose your preferred date
This could be VERY useful for our next phase of Open Course Library faculty and staff (approx. 30 people). We will be training them in early Feb. and copyright is a critical component. Thank you for your kind offer. Tom -- Tom Caswell Open Education Policy Associate, SBCTC (w) http://opencourselibrary.org (p) 360-747-7301 (b) http://tomcaswell.com (t) @tom4cam On Dec 1, 2011 8:48 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Cable, Of course -- participation from Creative Commons would be VERY useful. You guys were actively involved in assisting with the development of the Creative Commons Unpluggedhttp://wikieducator.org/Creative_Commons_unplugged/Introductiontutorial. Once we've fixed the date -- We'd appreciate support from CC in helping to get the word out. Seeing as you are in a generous mood ;-) How about the Director of Global Learning joining the team as a facilitator. Appreciate the support, Cable. Thanks Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Cable Green ca...@creativecommons.orgwrote: Well done. New Zealand leads the way once again! Creative Commons is happy to participate if useful. Cable Green Director of Global Learning Creative Commons (mobile) On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, Excellent news! Ako Aotearoa, New Zealand's National Centre for Tertiary Teaching Excellence will be sponsoring the OER Foundation to facilitate a free online workshop on open content licensing for educators. This workshop will be open for all educators worldwide. Ako Aotearoa is a strategic partner member of the OER Foundation. The workshop is to be scheduled early in the new year. Our first step is to select the best date by popular vote. You will find more information here: http://wikieducator.org/Open_content_licensing_for_educators/2012_poll Please cast your vote by the close of business on 9 December 2011. We will communicate the final dates on the lists hosted by the OER Foundation and then commence with self-registrations for the workshop. -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- Wayne Mackintosh http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg, Ph.D. Director OER Foundation http://www.oerfoundation.org Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. Founder and elected Community Council Member, WikiEducatorhttp://www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380 Skype: WGMNZ1 Twitter http://twitter.com/#%21/Mackiwg | identi.cahttp://identi.ca/waynemackintosh Wikiblog http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg/Blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups OER university group. To post to this group, send email to oer-univers...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to oer-university+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/oer-university?hl=en?hl=en Visit the OER univeristy page on http://wikieducator.org/OER_university -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator
Dear Dr. Wayne, There are two scenarios that keep on triggering my thoughts in this direction :) Scenario one: Disappearances of existing OERs: I think V. Krishna Moorthy’s comment on one of my google + updates can provide a picturesque description of the scenario “Many OERs I see them disappearing from their respective servers due to want of funds or personnel or no-takers. Immediate efforts should be to mirror them, as per need, by permissions, in a way they can ride on a permanent cloudswho will bell the right CAT for such operations” Scenario Two: In future, if some educational institution in the OERu network want to add their study materials in WE with CC-BY or CC-BY-SA freedoms and request us to provide a facility to keep the originals to be used by the teachers as well as students of their ongoing courses, while giving freedom to WE community and members in the OERu network to copy the content to other WE pages or other sites for developing derivative works (the scenario one can become the reason for such a request) – how shall we handle this scenario? On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Wayne Mackintosh mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anil Thanks for your suggestion. In this instance, your objective has been achieved. There is already a static versions available for download from multiple sites, so no need for a policy decision in my view. Moreover, there are other sites which can accommodate static versions of publications like this including the recently announced UNESCO OER portal. The time and effort to constitute an official WIkiEducator Workgrouphttp://wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Workgroups/Guidelines to develop a policy proposal for static versions of documents published by third parties would appear to be unproductive use of community time. Thoughts? Wayne On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Anil Prasad aplett...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Patricia, In simple terms my suggestion was,s to have a policy to provide a space for keeping CC-BY and CC-BY-SA original works/documents :) I think, in no way, it defeat the CC freedoms On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.orgwrote: Dear Anil, ** ** In my personal view your suggestion, to want to develop a policy, to prevent cc-by and cc-by-sa originals and derivatives from any changes, would defeat the purpose of these copyright licenses, but I know what you are saying. I also appreciate the fact that you want to differ between an original version and an upgrade, so I suggest the following: ** ** **1. **We would as Wayne already suggested insert the link to a pdf document, this way, keeping the original as is; and **2. **We could insert another Tab in the book template, to enable our community to suggest changes under the book headers, by chapter. This way, any changes can be documented, provided our editors enter them. This would need to be monitored. **3. **Advantage: The book will be updated and added-value to. ** ** Let me know what you think. Thanks, Anil Cheers, Patricia ** ** *From:* Anil Prasad [mailto:aplett...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:41 AM *To:* Patricia Schlicht *Cc:* wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator ** ** Dear Dr. Wayne and Patricia, Initially I also thought in the same lines, however on second thought I felt that we may require policies to keep CC-BY or CC-BY-SA originals and derivatives. Definitely it is not to limit the freedom, but purely on research interest. Similarly, as we go on with OERu system, there would be chances that some institutions in the network might request to add their CC-BY of CC-BY-SA materials on WE with a provision to keep the originals while giving all freedom for making derivative works- may be due to resource constraint to maintain their own setup for hosting such materials etc etc Moreover I think, once edited we may not be able to use descriptions like A joint COL-UNESCO OER Publication etc as we see in the header template. Hope my thoughts are not going wild :) On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Patricia Schlicht pschli...@col.org wrote: Dear Anil, Thanks for your comments. I agree with Wayne, given that the document was created as an open license publication, it can be edited, but anyone is free to put this book on their own 'watchlist', to monitor the editing done. Cheers, Patricia -Original Message- From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com on behalf of Wayne Mackintosh Sent: Wed 11/30/2011 7:03 PM To: Anil Prasad Cc: wikieducator@googlegroups.com; wikieducator-teacher-collaboration-fo...@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Joint COL UNESCO OER Publications available on WikiEducator HI Anil,
[WikiEducator] Problem with references
I am helping Mumbai University to create OER in WE. Am facing a few problems: 1. When we use the ref /ref syntax it works on a normal page i.e. on clicking the ref it connects to the references at the end of page BUT when we use templates on the page, it doesn't. See http://wikieducator.org/Introduction_to_Cost_Concepts 2. Am not able to access messages since the last week or so. 3. While using templates on a page we seem to be able to edit using only the EDIT button top of page - would like to break pages into smaller pieces so that they can be edited ( we normally do this through titling sections!!) - how can this be done? An early response would be useful!! Thanks. Savithri -- Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110019 Ph: 011 26294542, 011 29293224 Res: 25848151, 25843496 Fax: 011 26294540, Res: 25848151 http://beta.thehindu.com/sci-tech/article397395.ece http://eduframe.net/andc http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://andc.info http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wikieducator-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
