[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
Hi James, The WikiEducator council is a governance body and technically speaking should not get involved with operations management of WikiEducator. The prime purpose of the council is to ensure good governance -- not technical operations management. So for example, this would entail ensuring that democratic procedures are adopted for the development of policies or developing policies that will promote accountable operations management without interfering in the day-to-day technical management of the site. To date -- we do not have a written policy on who is awarded sysops/bureaucrats/administrator status. So far I've been a benevolent dictator in awarding these privileges based on a web of trust model and my experience of the community. However this will need to change given our community growth. My interpretation of the council documents (which will need to be ratified by the first council) is that elected and nominated officials would not automatically qualify for sysops/bureaucrats/administrator as this is an operations matter. Hope this helps -- there are still lots we need to get sorted to ensure a successful and sustainable project. Cheers Wayne On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 14:19 +1000, James Neill wrote: Hi Nellie, I searched the governance policy pages, etc. and WE more generally for info on syspops/bureaucrats/administrators, etc. and couldn't find much. I'm bit puzzled about a possible sudden increase in those trying to govern, yet there seems not so much about training/mentoring/developing much in the way of technical/skill responsibility, etc. What's the role of council members in terms of site development? My sense is that two (council/admins) should both undergo active development e.g., otherwise there is a considerable risk of council making decisions which are technically inappropriate/not ideal, etc. - such as premature use of LQT, etc. Sincerely, James NELLIE DEUTSCH wrote: James, I suggest you read the following to get a better idea of the roles members of the first council election will have: http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance#WikiEducator_Community_Council Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:00 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is a general question. Will those elected become sysops or bureacracts? Or is there a different process for becoming sysops or bureacrats? I'm a bit confused about how WE is administered/managed and what the roles, responsibilities, and tools of those elected will be: e.g., see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator Does this help to explain? NELLIE DEUTSCH wrote: James, Is this a general question? Can you clarify what you mean so that everyone understands exactly what you mean? Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will electees become sysops / bureaucrats - or is that a separate process? nelliemuller wrote: Greetings, I would like to remind members of Wikieducator that the election campaign will end at 17:00 on August 31, 2008. Voting will commence at 9:00 on September 1, 2008 and will end at 9:00 on September 15, 2008. The results of the election will be announced on or before September 30, 2008. Please note that the time relates to Standard Pacific Time. I would like to invite members to post general questions here, on the main list, or to the candidates on the talk pages associated with their campaign pages. Please follow the links below for further information: The announcement: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections The election procedures: http://wikieducator.org/Election_procedures_for_the_first_WE_Council The policy: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance and the candidate page:
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
James, That's a great question. If WE is truly to be community governed, then assigning responsibilities like administrative permissions needs to come from the Council. I foresee that once the Council is in place, that through resolution they can appoint people or rescind administrative permissions or any other responsibilities. There should also be a WikiEducator:People page that has a list of those with administrative permissions and other responsibilities so that the community knows who to contact for help with specific issues. (Perhaps there's already such a list elsewhere and I'm just not aware of it?) -=Steve=- -- Stephen H. Foerster http://hiresteve.com http://wikieducator.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
very important thread i must say. I would add one thing to what steve said. I believe newly elected council should be given their specific email addresses for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would really create a sense of belonging and pride that we all should have as WEs. I am all for steve's idea about WE should be totally community driven with periodic online meetings and face2face meeting once in a while. I believe election is just an initial phase of what i see as a revolutionary change in WE. I have been talking to a lot o WEs and election candidates and everyone is full of ideas just waiting to be heard and discussed :) On Aug 20, 6:19 pm, Steve Foerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, That's a great question. If WE is truly to be community governed, then assigning responsibilities like administrative permissions needs to come from the Council. I foresee that once the Council is in place, that through resolution they can appoint people or rescind administrative permissions or any other responsibilities. There should also be a WikiEducator:People page that has a list of those with administrative permissions and other responsibilities so that the community knows who to contact for help with specific issues. (Perhaps there's already such a list elsewhere and I'm just not aware of it?) -=Steve=- -- Stephen H. Foersterhttp://hiresteve.comhttp://wikieducator.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
Dear All, Exactly. We need an elected Council such that these decisions can be made in a democratic manner. Till now we were functioning in a 'situational - as the need arose' manner - we needed a Board of some sort - so an Interim Advisory Board was created; some people had to have admin rights so some people were given these, and so onand Wayne was taking most of the decisions. Of course, WE have been doing well even while functioning this way smile yet now that we have so many WEducators and so many opinion makers and opinion seekers it is essential that we structure ourselves to function better. Obviously once the council is formed members, within the Council different people will have to identify different primary responsibilities. As WE grows there are going to be several more issues to discuss and resolve - a democratically elected body could ensure democracy in functioning further too. Lets hope we do a good job of electing good people!! Savithri 2008/8/20 Minhaaj ur Rehman [EMAIL PROTECTED] very important thread i must say. I would add one thing to what steve said. I believe newly elected council should be given their specific email addresses for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] This would really create a sense of belonging and pride that we all should have as WEs. I am all for steve's idea about WE should be totally community driven with periodic online meetings and face2face meeting once in a while. I believe election is just an initial phase of what i see as a revolutionary change in WE. I have been talking to a lot o WEs and election candidates and everyone is full of ideas just waiting to be heard and discussed :) On Aug 20, 6:19 pm, Steve Foerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, That's a great question. If WE is truly to be community governed, then assigning responsibilities like administrative permissions needs to come from the Council. I foresee that once the Council is in place, that through resolution they can appoint people or rescind administrative permissions or any other responsibilities. There should also be a WikiEducator:People page that has a list of those with administrative permissions and other responsibilities so that the community knows who to contact for help with specific issues. (Perhaps there's already such a list elsewhere and I'm just not aware of it?) -=Steve=- -- Stephen H. Foersterhttp://hiresteve.comhttp://wikieducator.org -- Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 9786 2584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections/Savithri_Singh#Why_support_me_- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
Hi Steve, I noticed your name on the following page: http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Advisory_Board#Board_members Would this help: General responsibilities The WikiEducator Council, hereinafter referred to as the Council, has the responsibility: - to guide and support the WikiEducator community in achieving its aims in accordance with the community ethos and values. - to model good governance through transparent reporting. Agendas of meetings must be posted on WikiEducator at least two (2) days prior to the date of scheduled meetings and corresponding minutes must be posted within fourteen (14) days of a scheduled meeting. - to ensure that policies and activities meet the requirements of the essential freedoms defined in the http://freedomdomdefined.org Free Cultural Works Definition]. Powers The Council has the authority to: - approve policies, bylaws and amendments that have been developed transparently within the WikiEducator community; - nominate members to serve on the Council in accordance with this policy; - establish sub-committees and working groups for specific purposes of the Council, including an Executive Committee as described below; - call and administer due process for elections of the Council; - remove members of the Council in accordance with this policy - to elect the Officers of the Council. Warm wishes, Nellie On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:19 AM, Steve Foerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James, That's a great question. If WE is truly to be community governed, then assigning responsibilities like administrative permissions needs to come from the Council. I foresee that once the Council is in place, that through resolution they can appoint people or rescind administrative permissions or any other responsibilities. There should also be a WikiEducator:People page that has a list of those with administrative permissions and other responsibilities so that the community knows who to contact for help with specific issues. (Perhaps there's already such a list elsewhere and I'm just not aware of it?) -=Steve=- -- Stephen H. Foerster http://hiresteve.com http://wikieducator.org -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
will electees become sysops / bureaucrats - or is that a separate process? nelliemuller wrote: Greetings, I would like to remind members of Wikieducator that the election campaign will end at 17:00 on August 31, 2008. Voting will commence at 9:00 on September 1, 2008 and will end at 9:00 on September 15, 2008. The results of the election will be announced on or before September 30, 2008. Please note that the time relates to Standard Pacific Time. I would like to invite members to post general questions here, on the main list, or to the candidates on the talk pages associated with their campaign pages. Please follow the links below for further information: The announcement: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections The election procedures: http://wikieducator.org/Election_procedures_for_the_first_WE_Council The policy: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance and the candidate page: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections/List_of_candidates Thank you. Nellie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
James, I suggest you read the following to get a better idea of the roles members of the first council election will have: http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance#WikiEducator_Community_Council Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:00 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is a general question. Will those elected become sysops or bureacracts? Or is there a different process for becoming sysops or bureacrats? I'm a bit confused about how WE is administered/managed and what the roles, responsibilities, and tools of those elected will be: e.g., see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator Does this help to explain? NELLIE DEUTSCH wrote: James, Is this a general question? Can you clarify what you mean so that everyone understands exactly what you mean? Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will electees become sysops / bureaucrats - or is that a separate process? nelliemuller wrote: Greetings, I would like to remind members of Wikieducator that the election campaign will end at 17:00 on August 31, 2008. Voting will commence at 9:00 on September 1, 2008 and will end at 9:00 on September 15, 2008. The results of the election will be announced on or before September 30, 2008. Please note that the time relates to Standard Pacific Time. I would like to invite members to post general questions here, on the main list, or to the candidates on the talk pages associated with their campaign pages. Please follow the links below for further information: The announcement: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections The election procedures: http://wikieducator.org/Election_procedures_for_the_first_WE_Council The policy: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance and the candidate page: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections/List_of_candidates Thank you. Nellie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1621 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:53 PM -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: Election Reminders
James, You are asking excellent questions. I suggest the candidates running for the first council elections answer your questions. Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:19 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nellie, I searched the governance policy pages, etc. and WE more generally for info on syspops/bureaucrats/administrators, etc. and couldn't find much. I'm bit puzzled about a possible sudden increase in those trying to govern, yet there seems not so much about training/mentoring/developing much in the way of technical/skill responsibility, etc. What's the role of council members in terms of site development? My sense is that two (council/admins) should both undergo active development e.g., otherwise there is a considerable risk of council making decisions which are technically inappropriate/not ideal, etc. - such as premature use of LQT, etc. Sincerely, James NELLIE DEUTSCH wrote: James, I suggest you read the following to get a better idea of the roles members of the first council election will have: http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance#WikiEducator_Community_Council Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 9:00 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is a general question. Will those elected become sysops or bureacracts? Or is there a different process for becoming sysops or bureacrats? I'm a bit confused about how WE is administered/managed and what the roles, responsibilities, and tools of those elected will be: e.g., see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrator Does this help to explain? NELLIE DEUTSCH wrote: James, Is this a general question? Can you clarify what you mean so that everyone understands exactly what you mean? Thank you. Nellie On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:10 PM, James Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will electees become sysops / bureaucrats - or is that a separate process? nelliemuller wrote: Greetings, I would like to remind members of Wikieducator that the election campaign will end at 17:00 on August 31, 2008. Voting will commence at 9:00 on September 1, 2008 and will end at 9:00 on September 15, 2008. The results of the election will be announced on or before September 30, 2008. Please note that the time relates to Standard Pacific Time. I would like to invite members to post general questions here, on the main list, or to the candidates on the talk pages associated with their campaign pages. Please follow the links below for further information: The announcement: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections The election procedures: http://wikieducator.org/Election_procedures_for_the_first_WE_Council The policy: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Policy_for_Community_Governance and the candidate page: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:First_Community_Council_Elections/List_of_candidates Thank you. Nellie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1617 - Release Date: 8/17/2008 12:58 PM -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1621 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:53 PM -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1621 - Release Date: 8/19/2008 6:53 PM -- Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction http://www.nelliemuller.com http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd http://www.building-relationship.com/education http://blendedlear.ning.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
