[WikiEducator] Re: Keep the architecture open for bells and whistles

2009-04-22 Thread Savithri Singh
I am fascinated by the whole concept of content checking!!!  It could be
very useful - I can see.

Savithri

2009/4/12 Wayne Mackintosh wmackint...@col.org

  Hi Scott, Jim, Maria et al.

 I promised to ping David Wiley about the status on the Mediawiki
 readability project. David (now at BYU) refered me to Joel Duffin @ Utah
 state who has provided us with an update on their work (copied below with
 Joel's permission).  Take look -- I'm pretty impressed with what the team
 have got right so far --- its still very beta, but you'll get a good idea of
 its potential.

 In my view this kind of technology will take OER reuse to a new level of
 productivity --- It would be great to have a solid funding proposal to work
 with so that we can turn this vision into reality.

 Cheers
 Wayne


 *Update from Joel*

 You can see where we made it to at http://www.send2wiki.com just click on
 the Analyze readability link in the toolbox on the left when looking at an
 article. That will take you to a page that shows the reading level of the
 page. If you click on one of the boxes next to Target grade, it will
 highlight terms that are below that grade level. For example, see:
 http://www.send2wiki.com/readability.php?page_id=370

 There are various strategies to reducing the reading level of an article
 including word replacement, reducing sentence length, and summarizing. In
 the work I did we were only able to get a start on the first strategy.

 Here is a good article summarizing the issues and research in this area:
 Producing and Transforming Text in the Readability Principles article (pp.
 37-41
 http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICDocs/data/ericdocs2sql/content_storage_01/019b/80/1b/bf/46.pdf)





 On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 09:29 +1200, Wayne Mackintosh wrote:

 Hi Scott,  Jim, Maria et al.

 The notion of a content checker  to assist with recontextualisation of
 OER for reuse or as a support guide for authoring new materials is a great
 concept!

 About a year ago David Wiley shared with me some ideas and use cases that
 would analyse the readability of a wiki-based OER  against the reading age
 of the intended audience.  (I include copies of the use cases below.) I'll
 ping David and find out whether any of the code development got off the
 ground.

 Jim -- I think you're right - At the concept level --- content at the
 primary and secondary schools levels are reasonably portable -- particularly
 in the natural and physical sciences. At the same time, educational
 materials which incorporate / embed examples, learning activities and
 formative assessments are less portable in different contexts (The
 Reusability paradox -- the more pedagogy included in the OER, the more
 effective it is likely to be in supporting learning, but less reusable in
 different educational contexts.)  On approach to overcome this challenge is
 to identify educational elements as discrete objects within the content
 which provides greater flexibility for reuse, for example exporting content
 without the activities. As we speak, I'm working on a funding proposal to
 improve WikiEducator's capabilities in addressing the reusability paradox.

 We practice open philanthropy -- and encourage the development of funding
 proposals as free content :-) You can take a peek at the current proposal as
 its been drafted over here which includes a short summary of the reusability
 paradox : http://tinyurl.com/c3kwff

 Open question --- would any of you be interested in starting a draft
 funding proposal building on the content checker concepts?  I think that
 its both a smart and doable project. With the right level of funding we can
 make it happen.

 At least  -- I think we should capture these ideas -- albeit in the form of
 draft use cases. If you're interested, you can link your page from the
 Funding proposal node:  http://www.wikieducator.org/Funding_proposals

 Cheers
 Wayne

 *David's use cases*

 *Example 1*

 Mr. Squire, a 6th grade elementary teacher has heard about Wikipedia
 and would like to use an article on Motzart for his students. However,
 after looking at the length of the article, and noticing that many of
 the words are beyond the understanding of a 6th grader, he decides the
 article is of no use to his class.

 Before he exits the page he notices a button that says 'simpler
 versions'.  Curious, he clicks on the button and sees the message a
 simpler version for this page does not yet exist, would you like to
 create one?  There are three radial buttons; a 12th grade version, a
 6th grade version, and a 3rd grade version.  Mr. Squire chooses the
 6th grade version and clicks submit.

 Behind the scenes an exact duplicate of the Wikipedia article is
 created and posted to a new page.  Using a dictionary developed by the
 National Science Digital Library, words that an average 6th grader
 does not understand are highlighted. In addition, sentences that are
 very long are highlighted since longer sentences can be overly complex
 to a 

[WikiEducator] Re: Keep the architecture open for bells and whistles

2009-04-09 Thread jkelly952

Content in most subject areas in primary and secondary school is
fixed. How it is developed is not. Your “subjective and contested” is
referring to the “how”, and not the “what”.  Textbooks (or regional
syllabus where textbooks are not available) define the content that is
to be taught. If we examine those sources by given age levels (grade
levels), we will find more consistencies in what content is present
than inconsistencies. But how the content is developed by given age
levels (grade levels) varies widely.

A “content checker” captures the “what and how” to provide a utility
that acts like a “spell checker”. The “content checker” is activated
when a user directly (or indirectly as the system becomes more
sophisticated) tells it the language being used, subject area and
learners age (or age range).   For example, a developer typing in
English is working on a mathematics lesson for a seven year old. This
information will activate the checker. The developer is typing away
and puts the words “natural number” in the lesson. Like a “spell
checker” the “content checker” will highlight the words “natural
number”. The developer using their mouse will right click on the
highlighted words, and a menu will open. The “content checker” will
caution the developer that this term is not normally part of the
vocabulary of a 7 year old mathematics learner. The checker may
suggest the words “whole number” or “counting number” maybe more
appropriate for this age level. The checker will also provide links to
places like WE’s mathematics glossary and links to other prepared
lessons which may help the developer understand why the term “natural
number” is not used. A “content checker” need not be activated for a
negative reason, but just to provide useful links and information.

I am not aware of any publicly available system, because “content
checkers” require the accumulation of a lot of information on a lot of
different publishers’ works. Sharing collected information is not
profitable, so most of these systems stay in-house. The type of
collected information is like that on my website www.k-12math.info .

Jim Kelly
http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952


On Apr 8, 3:22 pm, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Jim,

 Can you make a few examples of the manual content checkers being
 developed? Isn't age appropriateness very subjective and contested?

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, jkelly952 jkelly...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  Manual “content checkers” exist and are being developed, it is only a
  matter of time when the people who brought us the “spell checker” will
  have the enlightening moment and  create “content checkers”.

  Jim Kelly
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952

 --
 Cheers,
 MariaD

 Make math your own, to make your own math.

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[WikiEducator] Re: Keep the architecture open for bells and whistles

2009-04-09 Thread Maria Droujkova

Thank you very much for the reply. This content checker is a
fascinating idea that seems doable, and your site is a great resource.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:14 PM, jkelly952 jkelly...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Content in most subject areas in primary and secondary school is
 fixed. How it is developed is not. Your “subjective and contested” is
 referring to the “how”, and not the “what”.

Not all schools and homeschools use the same fixed content, though. To
use American examples only, Key Curriculum materials, Hawaii Measure
Up, the Life of Fred series, A Beka series, or Saxon Math are
pretty different from one another not only in how, but also in
what. For a particular topic example, some curricula include sizable
amounts of early algebra and others do not have any whatsoever. If we
look at other countries, well, the differences are even larger.
Moreover, with distance and virtual learning becoming more available,
there is more and more variety and customization in scope and
sequence. How can a content checker support this variety?

 A “content checker” captures the “what and how” to provide a utility
 that acts like a “spell checker”. The “content checker” is activated
 when a user directly (or indirectly as the system becomes more
 sophisticated) tells it the language being used, subject area and
 learners age (or age range).   For example, a developer typing in
 English is working on a mathematics lesson for a seven year old. This
 information will activate the checker. The developer is typing away
 and puts the words “natural number” in the lesson. Like a “spell
 checker” the “content checker” will highlight the words “natural
 number”. The developer using their mouse will right click on the
 highlighted words, and a menu will open. The “content checker” will
 caution the developer that this term is not normally part of the
 vocabulary of a 7 year old mathematics learner. The checker may
 suggest the words “whole number” or “counting number” maybe more
 appropriate for this age level. The checker will also provide links to
 places like WE’s mathematics glossary and links to other prepared
 lessons which may help the developer understand why the term “natural
 number” is not used. A “content checker” need not be activated for a
 negative reason, but just to provide useful links and information.

 I am not aware of any publicly available system, because “content
 checkers” require the accumulation of a lot of information on a lot of
 different publishers’ works. Sharing collected information is not
 profitable, so most of these systems stay in-house. The type of
 collected information is like that on my website www.k-12math.info .

 Jim Kelly
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952

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[WikiEducator] Re: Keep the architecture open for bells and whistles

2009-04-09 Thread Scott Newson
Would it make sense then to create a content checker which is more focused
on consistency within a set of materials, instead of between different sets?

For example, if I were to start up a set of resources on teaching
programming in WikiEducator, I would set up a content checker to look just
at the content within the pages that I'm working on. It would tell me when I
use terms that I haven't introduced properly yet.

It could also be set up to give feedback based on many sets of material, so
it would tell me when I use a term I haven't introduced and also inform me
that most educational materials (in Canada, or wherever) targeted at that
level don't use that term.

Think of it as less of a checker, and more of a helpful reference.

Scott

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Maria Droujkova droujk...@gmail.comwrote:


 Thank you very much for the reply. This content checker is a
 fascinating idea that seems doable, and your site is a great resource.

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:14 PM, jkelly952 jkelly...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  Content in most subject areas in primary and secondary school is
  fixed. How it is developed is not. Your “subjective and contested” is
  referring to the “how”, and not the “what”.

 Not all schools and homeschools use the same fixed content, though. To
 use American examples only, Key Curriculum materials, Hawaii Measure
 Up, the Life of Fred series, A Beka series, or Saxon Math are
 pretty different from one another not only in how, but also in
 what. For a particular topic example, some curricula include sizable
 amounts of early algebra and others do not have any whatsoever. If we
 look at other countries, well, the differences are even larger.
 Moreover, with distance and virtual learning becoming more available,
 there is more and more variety and customization in scope and
 sequence. How can a content checker support this variety?

  A “content checker” captures the “what and how” to provide a utility
  that acts like a “spell checker”. The “content checker” is activated
  when a user directly (or indirectly as the system becomes more
  sophisticated) tells it the language being used, subject area and
  learners age (or age range).   For example, a developer typing in
  English is working on a mathematics lesson for a seven year old. This
  information will activate the checker. The developer is typing away
  and puts the words “natural number” in the lesson. Like a “spell
  checker” the “content checker” will highlight the words “natural
  number”. The developer using their mouse will right click on the
  highlighted words, and a menu will open. The “content checker” will
  caution the developer that this term is not normally part of the
  vocabulary of a 7 year old mathematics learner. The checker may
  suggest the words “whole number” or “counting number” maybe more
  appropriate for this age level. The checker will also provide links to
  places like WE’s mathematics glossary and links to other prepared
  lessons which may help the developer understand why the term “natural
  number” is not used. A “content checker” need not be activated for a
  negative reason, but just to provide useful links and information.
 
  I am not aware of any publicly available system, because “content
  checkers” require the accumulation of a lot of information on a lot of
  different publishers’ works. Sharing collected information is not
  profitable, so most of these systems stay in-house. The type of
  collected information is like that on my website www.k-12math.info .
 
  Jim Kelly
  http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952

 


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[WikiEducator] Re: Keep the architecture open for bells and whistles

2009-04-08 Thread Maria Droujkova

Jim,

Can you make a few examples of the manual content checkers being
developed? Isn't age appropriateness very subjective and contested?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:16 PM, jkelly952 jkelly...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 Manual “content checkers” exist and are being developed, it is only a
 matter of time when the people who brought us the “spell checker” will
 have the enlightening moment and  create “content checkers”.

 Jim Kelly
 http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Jkelly952





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