[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Hi dear all, I have created two pages on WE viz http://wikieducator.org/WE3/Discuss and http://wikieducator.org/WE3/Plan First one is to discuss/consolidate group discussions on WE 3, the second one is to convert the discussions into a plan/project. So that the information on the pages would become helpful to WE Council and other stakeholders who are engaged in formal planning. If the arrangement is generally accepted, I will start working on it, and also request all others to take part. Warm regards Anil On Oct 3, 7:02 pm, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, twitter is a great tool to give valuable insight into the members of a team. I have found that my online (and offline) communication seems to have a different depth when it includes my following an associate, friend... on twitter. I never though about the importance in having Wayne develop an online presence outside of COL. If Stephen Downes can have the time for blogs and tweets, why not Wayne... Let's hope you find some additional time for this Wayne. It could provide some important exposure / insight into WE as it transitions... Peter On Oct 2, 10:52 pm, NELLIE DEUTSCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Personally, I think twitter is an excellent idea for WE as a community and for individuals. I would give twitter a try. Warm wishes, Nellie Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instructionhttp://www.nelliemuller.comhttp://www.integrating-technology.com/pdht... On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next you'll be suggesting twitter so we can keep up with his movements... geographic that is SMILE On Oct 2, 2:23 pm, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne, you need a blog.. All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group and different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with everything you are doing and thinking about On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote: Wayne wrote: WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: Oh, okay, fair enough. I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to provide a synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as the basis to ask the community to help us identify the strategic and operational priorities of Phase 3 in our development. TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009. COL has agreed to fund the technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, that is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is established within a new legal framework that COL considers appropriate for such support. Our discussions have been around setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. I agree that this is critically important. In order to set up a non- profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes? And these would presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of Directors or Trustees or what have you? I ask because if that's the case then this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, and if that's so we must be the ones to write it. Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not necessarily. My personal view is that we should do everything we can to respect and support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our history and what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements. It is conceivable to have an independent non profit that is responsible for maintaining the technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator community in accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator Community Council without interfering with the governance of the community. I'm not a lawyer and we'll need to get legal advice on this question. So let's wait till we have feedback from the experts. Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - employee relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded to employment agreements. I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with Otago would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing relevant information with the WE community. Nope -- I don't see it that way at all. We all have multiple roles and identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the WE family. For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as a member of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which gives me the time to work for the
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
I agree, twitter is a great tool to give valuable insight into the members of a team. I have found that my online (and offline) communication seems to have a different depth when it includes my following an associate, friend... on twitter. I never though about the importance in having Wayne develop an online presence outside of COL. If Stephen Downes can have the time for blogs and tweets, why not Wayne... Let's hope you find some additional time for this Wayne. It could provide some important exposure / insight into WE as it transitions... Peter On Oct 2, 10:52 pm, NELLIE DEUTSCH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Personally, I think twitter is an excellent idea for WE as a community and for individuals. I would give twitter a try. Warm wishes, Nellie Nellie Deutsch Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instructionhttp://www.nelliemuller.comhttp://www.integrating-technology.com/pdhttp://www.building-relationship.com/educationhttp://blendedlear.ning.comhttp://connecting-online.ning.com On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Next you'll be suggesting twitter so we can keep up with his movements... geographic that is SMILE On Oct 2, 2:23 pm, Leigh Blackall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne, you need a blog.. All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group and different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with everything you are doing and thinking about On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote: Wayne wrote: WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: Oh, okay, fair enough. I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to provide a synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as the basis to ask the community to help us identify the strategic and operational priorities of Phase 3 in our development. TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009. COL has agreed to fund the technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, that is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is established within a new legal framework that COL considers appropriate for such support. Our discussions have been around setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. I agree that this is critically important. In order to set up a non- profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes? And these would presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of Directors or Trustees or what have you? I ask because if that's the case then this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, and if that's so we must be the ones to write it. Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not necessarily. My personal view is that we should do everything we can to respect and support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our history and what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements. It is conceivable to have an independent non profit that is responsible for maintaining the technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator community in accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator Community Council without interfering with the governance of the community. I'm not a lawyer and we'll need to get legal advice on this question. So let's wait till we have feedback from the experts. Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - employee relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded to employment agreements. I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with Otago would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing relevant information with the WE community. Nope -- I don't see it that way at all. We all have multiple roles and identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the WE family. For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as a member of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which gives me the time to work for the WikiEducator project as an organisational allocation of staff time. Increasingly, I hope to see more institutions officially donating FTE (Full time equivalent) staff time to the project. I've been thinking about launching an FTE for WikiEducator initiative where institutions commit real staff time to the project. The moment I have definitive detail on the relationship between the operations of the International Centre for Open Education and the WikiEducator project -- I will be the first to let our community know.
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Wayne, you need a blog.. All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group and different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with everything you are doing and thinking about On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote: Wayne wrote: WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: Oh, okay, fair enough. I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to provide a synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as the basis to ask the community to help us identify the strategic and operational priorities of Phase 3 in our development. TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009. COL has agreed to fund the technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, that is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is established within a new legal framework that COL considers appropriate for such support. Our discussions have been around setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. I agree that this is critically important. In order to set up a non- profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes? And these would presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of Directors or Trustees or what have you? I ask because if that's the case then this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, and if that's so we must be the ones to write it. Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not necessarily. My personal view is that we should do everything we can to respect and support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our history and what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements. It is conceivable to have an independent non profit that is responsible for maintaining the technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator community in accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator Community Council without interfering with the governance of the community. I'm not a lawyer and we'll need to get legal advice on this question. So let's wait till we have feedback from the experts. Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - employee relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded to employment agreements. I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with Otago would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing relevant information with the WE community. Nope -- I don't see it that way at all. We all have multiple roles and identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the WE family. For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as a member of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which gives me the time to work for the WikiEducator project as an organisational allocation of staff time. Increasingly, I hope to see more institutions officially donating FTE (Full time equivalent) staff time to the project. I've been thinking about launching an FTE for WikiEducator initiative where institutions commit real staff time to the project. The moment I have definitive detail on the relationship between the operations of the International Centre for Open Education and the WikiEducator project -- I will be the first to let our community know. Fair enough. Suffice it to say, the establishment of an independent legal entity for administering the funding for the WE project is a critical path decision for moving forward. Currently -- WE has no legal status. WE is a community of association whereby individual members are personally responsible (and liable) for their activities in the community. Very good, on this I think everyone agrees. Can we assume the non- profit group would be chartered in NZ? (Fine with me if it is, so long as NZ recognises public domain dedications.) Yes -- the non-profit would be chartered in NZ. To the best of my knowledge, NZ recognises public domain dedications. The final form of the non-profit is not my decision, nor should it be. This has to do with taxation status of different kinds of entities, for example an Educational Charitable Trust versus a non-profit company with charitable purposes. In the case of NZ Educational Trust, to retain tax free status has implications regarding disbursements -- this has nothing to do with the form of the entity but local taxation law. As an international project we must ensure that WE can continue its work at an international level. This international stuff gets pretty complicated -- our server sits in Germany and we will more than likely have our Phase 2 hosting located in Canada. Each country has its laws around these things as well. I'm not a lawyer and we will rely on the
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Hey Leigh -- You're so right The amount of time I spend in WikiEducator --- I wonder how I'll find the time to blog. Now that we have a Council in place, hopefully I'll have more time on my hands to blog. I'll need some good tips and advice from the gurus :-) Cheers Wayne On Fri, 2008-10-03 at 10:23 +1300, Leigh Blackall wrote: Wayne, you need a blog.. All this information, dispersed and broken up inside a google group and different Wikipages. I think you need a blog so we can keep up with everything you are doing and thinking about On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-10-02 at 09:49 -0700, Steve Foerster wrote: Wayne wrote: WikiEducator 3.0 refers to the phases of our strategic plan: Oh, okay, fair enough. I've started a stub for Wkieducator 3.0 --- The idea being to provide a synopsis of our strategy and concise history of the project as the basis to ask the community to help us identify the strategic and operational priorities of Phase 3 in our development. TImeline: Startup of the new International Center for Open Education is scheduled for 1 May 2009. COL has agreed to fund the technical infrastructure of WIkiEducator for the first 3 years, that is servers and technical support staff. COL's future support for WikiEducator is conditional and requires that WikiEducator is established within a new legal framework that COL considers appropriate for such support. Our discussions have been around setting up an independent and appropriate non-profit entity. I agree that this is critically important. In order to set up a non- profit organisation, it must have by-laws, yes? And these would presumably refer to a governance structure, e.g., Board of Directors or Trustees or what have you? I ask because if that's the case then this would effectively replace our Draft Policy on Governance, and if that's so we must be the ones to write it. Steve, replacing our Draft Policy on Governance -- not necessarily. My personal view is that we should do everything we can to respect and support the autonomy of the WE community taking into account our history and what's been achieved to date and the legal requirements. It is conceivable to have an independent non profit that is responsible for maintaining the technical and operational infrastructure of the WikiEducator community in accordance with the policies approved by the WikiEducator Community Council without interfering with the governance of the community. I'm not a lawyer and we'll need to get legal advice on this question. So let's wait till we have feedback from the experts. Steve the Open Education Centre comes under an employer - employee relationship. This is subject to the normal confidences afforded to employment agreements. I hope that doesn't mean that you foresee your relationship with Otago would require confidences that would preclude you from sharing relevant information with the WE community. Nope -- I don't see it that way at all. We all have multiple roles and identities. My participation in WE is as an equal member of the WE family. For example, you work at a University -- but participate in WE as a member of the community. What I anticipate is a job description which gives me the time to work for the WikiEducator project as an organisational allocation of staff time. Increasingly, I hope to see more institutions officially donating FTE (Full time equivalent) staff time to the project. I've been thinking about launching an FTE for WikiEducator initiative where institutions commit real staff time to the project. The moment I have definitive detail on the relationship between the operations of the International Centre for Open Education and the WikiEducator project -- I will be the first to let our community know. Fair enough. Suffice it to say, the establishment of an independent legal entity for administering the funding for the WE project is a critical path decision for moving forward. Currently -- WE has no legal status. WE is a community of association whereby individual members are personally responsible (and liable) for their activities in the community.
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Wayne wrote: This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. I have a few questions: * Where did we get WikiEducator 3.0? I wasn't aware we'd had a 2.0. If anything, I'd call everything up to the point of elected community governance a beta version, and only now really going into production. Or, that we were in alpha before, now we're in beta, and once we have a separate legal entity we'll be in production. (Not that I'd suggest actually using any of that, I only meant those as comparative analogies.) * I'd like to know exactly what your proposed timeline is for transferring WE from COL to Otago, what needs to be done, etc. How much do you have to do, and how much can others help you? * I'd like to know more about the International Centre for Open Education that is being established at Otago Polytechnic. If I understand correctly, that's something that will be permanently attached to Otago, so it won't serve as the separate legal entity that WE needs. What will this Centre's relationship with WE be, and what else might it do? * I understand that to this point you were acting in WE's interest and had to act quickly, and especially given that Otago seems to be more flexible than COL when it comes to software development and multilanguage support, I'm pleased we're moving there. However, I believe that from this point forward issues must be discussed openly and decisions must be made through Council resolutions. Do you see anything in our future that would make this impractical? Thanks, -=Steve=- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
A very important observation Steve! If I understand correctly, that's something that will be permanently attached to Otago, so it won't serve as the separate legal entity that WE needs. On Oct 1, 9:53 am, Steve Foerster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne wrote: This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. I have a few questions: * Where did we get WikiEducator 3.0? I wasn't aware we'd had a 2.0. If anything, I'd call everything up to the point of elected community governance a beta version, and only now really going into production. Or, that we were in alpha before, now we're in beta, and once we have a separate legal entity we'll be in production. (Not that I'd suggest actually using any of that, I only meant those as comparative analogies.) * I'd like to know exactly what your proposed timeline is for transferring WE from COL to Otago, what needs to be done, etc. How much do you have to do, and how much can others help you? * I'd like to know more about the International Centre for Open Education that is being established at Otago Polytechnic. If I understand correctly, that's something that will be permanently attached to Otago, so it won't serve as the separate legal entity that WE needs. What will this Centre's relationship with WE be, and what else might it do? * I understand that to this point you were acting in WE's interest and had to act quickly, and especially given that Otago seems to be more flexible than COL when it comes to software development and multilanguage support, I'm pleased we're moving there. However, I believe that from this point forward issues must be discussed openly and decisions must be made through Council resolutions. Do you see anything in our future that would make this impractical? Thanks, -=Steve=- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Ever since both the Transnational Qualification Framework ( http://www.wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework) and the Quality Assurance Framework (http://www.wikieducator.org/ WikiEducator:Quality_Assurance_Framework) projects started I have wondered where these two overlap. I believe they are both key to the sustainability of WE. I would think that the quality of any featured works should include reference to where the resource meets a qualification framework item... Come to think of it, shouldn't the Transnational Qualification Framework (http://www.wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework) taxonomy align with the Categories portal list (http:// www.wikieducator.org/Template:Portal_list)? I believe that once we have alignment of the curriculum taxonomy (categories) with the qualifications framework and the quality assurance approach we would have built a very serious foundation (*and we have most resources within these three structures, particularly having a resource categorised within the qualifications framework*) for the management and deployment of OERs... Comments??? On Sep 30, 3:25 am, Anil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right Dr. Wayne, we have to develop a sustainable nonprofit management model for WikiEducator. For that the WE community may be further strengthened in a formal way. The WE Council is a good step indeed. In the next version, we may bring in Qualification Framework so that the content can be developed or linked with more meaning to the activity involved. In the next version we may work on dual mode, I mean, Moderated and Non-moderated. Moderation is essential to ensure the suitability of content for qualification framework. Therefore we may think about a group moderation scheme. At the same time we may also continue the present set up for those who cannot wait for moderation. Moderators can also pick content from non- moderated interface. Warm regards Anil On Sep 30, 2:18 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, At last I'm back in the office again and will be in Vancouver for the next three weeks before my next international mission. The phenomenal success of WikiEducator is attributed to hundreds of educators from around the world who wake up in the morning thinking: What can I do for WikiEducator today? This is the foundation for our current and future success. I'm sure that there must be hundreds of questions pertaining to our unfolding futures (that is WikiEducator 3.0 smile) and I will do my best to answer all these questions. I know that I won't have all the answers -- but working together we'll find the answers to most of our questions. In our networked society -- they say that its far better to have the right questions (without necessarily having all the answers), than having the right answers to the wrong questions. Key thoughts about WikiEducator 3.0 * WE is a community project and will always be a community project run by the community for the community; * WE needs a non-profit entity to take is to the next level of success -- we have outgrown our home at COL; * The success of the community is the prime reason we can move forward independently. This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. Look forward to an interesting conversation :-) Cheers Wayne- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
No need to be sorry, we all need a break once in a while when we give our full energy to the things we value, spending endless hours, working tireless, to make the things we believe, a success. You are a wonderful advocate. Enjoy your time off Patricia From: wikieducator@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Savithri Singh Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:50 PM To: wikieducator@googlegroups.com Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together Hi, I'm busy making the final prep for two F2F wikied trainings. Then i go off on a two weeks holiday back to work and catching up. Will be able to really get into wikieducator issues only early November. Sorry for this but smile Savithri 2008/9/30 Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, At last I'm back in the office again and will be in Vancouver for the next three weeks before my next international mission. The phenomenal success of WikiEducator is attributed to hundreds of educators from around the world who wake up in the morning thinking: What can I do for WikiEducator today? This is the foundation for our current and future success. I'm sure that there must be hundreds of questions pertaining to our unfolding futures (that is WikiEducator 3.0 smile) and I will do my best to answer all these questions. I know that I won't have all the answers -- but working together we'll find the answers to most of our questions. In our networked society -- they say that its far better to have the right questions (without necessarily having all the answers), than having the right answers to the wrong questions. Key thoughts about WikiEducator 3.0 * WE is a community project and will always be a community project run by the community for the community; * WE needs a non-profit entity to take is to the next level of success -- we have outgrown our home at COL; * The success of the community is the prime reason we can move forward independently. This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. Look forward to an interesting conversation :-) Cheers Wayne -- Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?b9EVjhuo7c6SnzhO-qejhOqenPo0fo8mGuvV7 -grXrta1K_8CzBVxVwsUCyrKr8N8lrxrOX9eiNoMTKXEz0zcGjGj8f1XEuP1MMmC7zzBGm9D OIjCtqF_00gkhHkyvV6dmRGsKrhhjsudEFFFzCjhOMyedK3zpFr0mhmgQwTrpRyqnjh02_id 402OaO6A6XreIjh0PRPh0nbCy0prAuxa14Qglryq87mVJNYQgjGh-pfUCV-7PNo_pgdECQPr bNEVvd7bzNEVdDrldh9svUfdT http://wikieducator.org/Savithri_Singh http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2OqekQnC1P1JBUQsLCzAQsCzBYS03ciaOZ1KS PH7w0e36Cpj9NAaz4E4ipK_8CzBVxVwsUCyrKr8N8lrxrOX9eiNoMTKXEz0zcGjGj8f1XEuP 1MMmC7zzBGm9DOIjCtqF_00gkhHkyvV6dmRGsKrhhjsudEFFFzCjhOMyedK3zpFr0mhmgQwT rpRyqnjh02_id402OaO6A6XreIjh0PRPh0nbCy0prAuxa14Qglryq87mVJNYQgjGh-pfUCV- 7PNo_pgdFCQPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdDrldh9svUfdT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
It is great to have Anil back with us raising this again. Thanks Anil. I very much like the idea of the moderated and not-yet moderated assessment standard. And Peter's link to the Quality is a good one I think, esspecially the first step of using categories. I wonder if we could review one of Otago Polytechnic's development models? Where we start a new page with a Qualifications Standard and then develop a subpage for a library of resources list, and another subpage for a list of lesson plans, learning and assessment activities. If that was seen as a good development model for the TQF to encourage, I think we would see more and more teachers out there developing new course pages that simply draw on the many standard pages that are built... On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since both the Transnational Qualification Framework ( http://www.wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework) and the Quality Assurance Framework (http://www.wikieducator.org/ WikiEducator:Quality_Assurance_Framework) projects started I have wondered where these two overlap. I believe they are both key to the sustainability of WE. I would think that the quality of any featured works should include reference to where the resource meets a qualification framework item... Come to think of it, shouldn't the Transnational Qualification Framework (http://www.wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework) taxonomy align with the Categories portal list (http:// www.wikieducator.org/Template:Portal_list)? I believe that once we have alignment of the curriculum taxonomy (categories) with the qualifications framework and the quality assurance approach we would have built a very serious foundation (*and we have most resources within these three structures, particularly having a resource categorised within the qualifications framework*) for the management and deployment of OERs... Comments??? On Sep 30, 3:25 am, Anil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right Dr. Wayne, we have to develop a sustainable nonprofit management model for WikiEducator. For that the WE community may be further strengthened in a formal way. The WE Council is a good step indeed. In the next version, we may bring in Qualification Framework so that the content can be developed or linked with more meaning to the activity involved. In the next version we may work on dual mode, I mean, Moderated and Non-moderated. Moderation is essential to ensure the suitability of content for qualification framework. Therefore we may think about a group moderation scheme. At the same time we may also continue the present set up for those who cannot wait for moderation. Moderators can also pick content from non- moderated interface. Warm regards Anil On Sep 30, 2:18 am, Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, At last I'm back in the office again and will be in Vancouver for the next three weeks before my next international mission. The phenomenal success of WikiEducator is attributed to hundreds of educators from around the world who wake up in the morning thinking: What can I do for WikiEducator today? This is the foundation for our current and future success. I'm sure that there must be hundreds of questions pertaining to our unfolding futures (that is WikiEducator 3.0 smile) and I will do my best to answer all these questions. I know that I won't have all the answers -- but working together we'll find the answers to most of our questions. In our networked society -- they say that its far better to have the right questions (without necessarily having all the answers), than having the right answers to the wrong questions. Key thoughts about WikiEducator 3.0 * WE is a community project and will always be a community project run by the community for the community; * WE needs a non-profit entity to take is to the next level of success -- we have outgrown our home at COL; * The success of the community is the prime reason we can move forward independently. This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. Look forward to an interesting conversation :-) Cheers Wayne- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Hi Leigh and Anil The concept of non-moderated and moderated content aligns very well with WE's work on the quality assurance framework. Our current thinking on quality is based on a tiered framework starting from a draft phase of a personal teaching resource == featured teaching resource == featured collaboration == a peer reviewed (or moderated) resource. We've made an attempt to capture these phases or levels with a simple graphic: http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Quality_Assurance_Framework/Contribution_Levels I think that its very important for our community to support all educators --- irrespective of the quality of draft materials or individual capability in the community. However at the same time we need to provide incentives and support in helping our community achieve the quality standards of which we'll all be proud! Leigh -- that's a fantastic offer to use Otago Poly examples as a test case to refine our QA and review processes. BIG thank you. We still have lots of work to do in getting this right, not to mention the challenges for a QA framework to support multiple pedagogical approaches. There are also strong linkages between the notion of an OER Transnational Qualifications Framework and mapping of our content developments. I'm very keen to get folk like NZQA involved in our deliberations, so its all important that we do a good job on our WE QA framework. Cheers Wayne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
Hi, I'm busy making the final prep for two F2F wikied trainings. Then i go off on a two weeks holiday back to work and catching up. Will be able to really get into wikieducator issues only early November. Sorry for this but smile Savithri 2008/9/30 Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, At last I'm back in the office again and will be in Vancouver for the next three weeks before my next international mission. The phenomenal success of WikiEducator is attributed to hundreds of educators from around the world who wake up in the morning thinking: What can I do for WikiEducator today? This is the foundation for our current and future success. I'm sure that there must be hundreds of questions pertaining to our unfolding futures (that is WikiEducator 3.0 smile) and I will do my best to answer all these questions. I know that I won't have all the answers -- but working together we'll find the answers to most of our questions. In our networked society -- they say that its far better to have the right questions (without necessarily having all the answers), than having the right answers to the wrong questions. Key thoughts about WikiEducator 3.0 * WE is a community project and will always be a community project run by the community for the community; * WE needs a non-profit entity to take is to the next level of success -- we have outgrown our home at COL; * The success of the community is the prime reason we can move forward independently. This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. Look forward to an interesting conversation :-) Cheers Wayne -- Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Savithri_Singh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[WikiEducator] Re: WikiEducator 3.0 -- Building our future together
No worries Savithri, No apologies necessary -- as Principal of a College and taking on the preparations for the two L4C workshops on top of your existing workloads, we're more than impressed with your solid support and commitment to the project. What we need is advice on how you get it right! Wiki Savithri is on record as stating WikiEducator has changed my life at the 5th Pan Commonwealth forum during the WikiEducator session. That was an inspiring moment! Cheers and thankx Wayne On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 07:19 +0530, Savithri Singh wrote: Hi, I'm busy making the final prep for two F2F wikied trainings. Then i go off on a two weeks holiday back to work and catching up. Will be able to really get into wikieducator issues only early November. Sorry for this but smile Savithri 2008/9/30 Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, At last I'm back in the office again and will be in Vancouver for the next three weeks before my next international mission. The phenomenal success of WikiEducator is attributed to hundreds of educators from around the world who wake up in the morning thinking: What can I do for WikiEducator today? This is the foundation for our current and future success. I'm sure that there must be hundreds of questions pertaining to our unfolding futures (that is WikiEducator 3.0 smile) and I will do my best to answer all these questions. I know that I won't have all the answers -- but working together we'll find the answers to most of our questions. In our networked society -- they say that its far better to have the right questions (without necessarily having all the answers), than having the right answers to the wrong questions. Key thoughts about WikiEducator 3.0 * WE is a community project and will always be a community project run by the community for the community; * WE needs a non-profit entity to take is to the next level of success -- we have outgrown our home at COL; * The success of the community is the prime reason we can move forward independently. This is an open invitation to all WIkiEducators for any questions you may have about WikiEducator 3.0, but more importantly providing us with well-founded advice on our next steps. Look forward to an interesting conversation :-) Cheers Wayne -- Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 97862584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Savithri_Singh --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups WikiEducator group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
