Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship
James Alexander wrote: I think the biggest thing was that Google thought that if we were working with China and going along with their filtering they should be leaving us alone. So far, so standard for Western corporations in Asia. Oh, you mean we have to understand the culture as well as the market? The point being that the implied division makes more sense to one side than to the other. Well, fortunately, WP appears to be able to get away with its non-business model. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Curious Incident of the Fans in the Night
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Gerard wrote: If they want to filibuster the reliability of this source, it speaks of some child being Robert Heinlein's great-grandson ... Heinlein didn't have any children. I wonder where they got that from. Wikipedia's article on Heinlein nowhere says he didn't have any children. It's generally accepted that he and Virginia didn't have any children, but Virginia was his third wife, and he was married to his second for 15 years. True, but the New York Times obituary says he was survived only by his third wife. If he had children by either 1 or 2, wouldn't they have mentioned it? And try googling around a bit; you'll find nothing, and even the occasional hit specifically claiming there were no children (http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/rahfaq.html#0106) -- gwern ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
[WikiEN-l] Strategic Planning Office hours
Hi everyone, The next strategic planning office hours are: Wednesday from 04:00-05:00 UTC, which is: Tuesday, 8-9pm PST Tuesday, 11pm-12am EST There has been a lot of tremendous work on the strategy wiki the past few months, and Task Forces are finishing up their work. Office hours will be a great opportunity to discuss the work that's happened as well as the work to come. As always, you can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net and filling in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-strategy). You may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine. More details at: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours Thanks! Hope to see many of you there. Philippe Beaudette Facilitator, Strategy Project Wikimedia Foundation phili...@wikimedia.org mobile: 918 200-WIKI (9454) Imagine a world in which every human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Curious Incident of the Fans in the Night
Gwern Branwen wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Ken Arromdee arrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Gerard wrote: If they want to filibuster the reliability of this source, it speaks of some child being Robert Heinlein's great-grandson ... Heinlein didn't have any children. I wonder where they got that from. Wikipedia's article on Heinlein nowhere says he didn't have any children. It's generally accepted that he and Virginia didn't have any children, but Virginia was his third wife, and he was married to his second for 15 years. True, but the New York Times obituary says he was survived only by his third wife. If he had children by either 1 or 2, wouldn't they have mentioned it? And try googling around a bit; you'll find nothing, and even the occasional hit specifically claiming there were no children (http://www.nitrosyncretic.com/rah/rahfaq.html#0106) As someone who has researched this particular topic pretty thoroughly (even to the point of discovering Heinlein's involvement in EPIC well before it was published in reliable sources)... ...I would posit you have to allow that wife number 1. is still a complete mystery. Literally. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen P. S. Never mind William Proxmire, a shot of T.B. vaccine on a navy ship, Heinlein could have been a congress-critter if just Konrad Henlein hadn't been making headlines in the Sudetenlands as a tiny fuhrer the particular election year Robert A. Heinlein decided to stand up for election. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
Re: [WikiEN-l] The Curious Incident of the Fans in the Night
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Ken Arromdee wrote: On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, David Gerard wrote: If they want to filibuster the reliability of this source, it speaks of some child being Robert Heinlein's great-grandson ... Heinlein didn't have any children. I wonder where they got that from. Wikipedia's article on Heinlein nowhere says he didn't have any children. It's generally accepted that he and Virginia didn't have any children, but Virginia was his third wife, and he was married to his second for 15 years. And serious historians still don't know even the name of his first wife, much less their connubial history. Yours, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen Our article seems to know her name - sourced to the LA Times even. -- gwern ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l