[WikiEN-l] Upcoming Changes to the User Interface

2010-05-08 Thread Howie Fung
Everyone,

As many of you already know, the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience 
team has been running a beta program focused on improving the user 
interface for over six months now. More details may be found here 
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Usability_Initiative 
[a], but our main goal has been to reduce the barriers to participation 
in Wikipedia by making it easier for new contributors to edit.

Since the start of the program, over 635,000 users across all Wikimedia 
projects have participated in this beta program - testing and providing 
feedback on the new interface. Roughly 80% of the test users who tried 
the beta are still using it (view details 
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey [b]). On the 
English Wikipedia, almost 270,000 users have tried the test interface 
and about 84% of those users continue to use it. On April 5, the beta 
features became the default experience for users of Wikimedia Commons, a 
wiki similar to Wikipedia that hosts the millions of free image and 
media files within our projects. The summary of feedback from Commons 
users may be found here 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/04/16/a-quick-update-on-vector-acceptance-by-commons-users/
 
[c]. The WMF blog 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/25/wikimedia-gets-ready-for-some-big-changes/
 
[d] and the tech blog 
http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/the-change-in-interface-is-coming/ 
[e] also provide more information on this project.

This new user interface will become the default for users of the English 
Wikipedia during the second week of May. We are currently scheduled to 
make the switch at 5:00am UTC on May 13. Once we make the switch, all 
users will begin to see the new features [1]. These features include an 
enhanced toolbar, a new skin (which we named 'Vector'), and a number of 
other features we're very excited about (FAQs may be found here 
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers [f]). 
If you prefer not to make the change, there will be 'Take me back' link 
to restore the original features. Those who would like to experience the 
new interface sooner may do so via the 'Try Beta' link at the top of the 
page.

We understand that the English Wikipedia relies heavily on custom user 
scripts and site-specific JavaScript. Information on how to test gadgets 
is included in the FAQs 
http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers page. 
If you encounter issues using the new skin, please share your feedback 
[http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers 
[g].

We're looking forward to rolling out the new features next week. In the 
meantime, if you have any questions/comments, please share them here 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback [h] -- 
we're trying to consolidate feedback as much as we can.

Howie

Wikimedia Usability Experience Team

[1] Users that have opted out of the beta will still get the new 
features.  We apologize in advance for this inconvenience, but these 
users may restore their features via the Take Me Back link.
[a] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Usability_Initiative
[b] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey
[c] 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/04/16/a-quick-update-on-vector-acceptance-by-commons-users/
[d] 
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/25/wikimedia-gets-ready-for-some-big-changes/
[e] http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/the-change-in-interface-is-coming/
[f] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
[g] 
[http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
[h] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged protection and patrolled revisions

2010-05-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comsimetrical%2bwikil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 How about this.  No message on the edit page itself.  When they save
 the edit, they're redirected to the draft page of that article, with a
 message at the top saying something like This is a publicly-viewable
 draft, and will be shown to all viewers by default after review.
 There's no need to mention it *before* the edit, is there?


Hi Aryeh,

I think this an idea worth discussing more, but I think the idea may get
lost if it stays solely on this mailing list, so here's what I'm going to
recommend:
1.  File a bug on bugzilla.wikimedia.org.
2.  Let me know that you've done that.
3.  I'll add further consideration to our backlog

I'm pretty doubtful that we'll be able to get to this before launch.  My
understanding here (based on what I heard in the WMF meeting, but I may have
misheard) is that what is being requested is how the German Wikipedia used
to work, and they switched it to the current behavior.  That means that, at
a minimum, we'll need some more time to think about the proposed change than
we'd like to let delay the initial trial.  That's not to say that we won't
get to it, but getting more experience with the feature would be best before
tinkering with this aspect of it.

Make sense?
Rob
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[WikiEN-l] Fwd: Ramping up the Flagged Revs trial

2010-05-08 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi folks,

As we've gotten down to brass tacks in planning the deployment of Flagged
Revisions on en.wikipedia.org, it's become obvious that we'll probably need
to limit the number of articles put under Flagged Protection at first.  A
couple of reasons for doing this:
a)  Performance - we know already from de.wikipedia.org and from watching
flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org that this feature can impact performance.
 So, we'd like to start small and build up from there
b)  Community norm development - we'd like to give the community a chance to
use this in production in a limited way to start with to get a feel for the
feature in the wild.  We suspect many people will appreciate the opportunity
to see this in action and get a better sense of the policy implications
without having to worry about finding that half of English Wikipedia is
under Flagged Protection.

So, we're planning on putting an upper bound of 2000 articles when we start
the trial.  We'll then see how this plays out.  If performance takes a
severe hit, we'll need to work with the admin community for a plan to back
down from that number (in lieu of total reverting the feature).  If things
are going well on all fronts, we can possibly bump things up.

I've outlined this here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Trialhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_protection_and_patrolled_revisions/Trial

What would be useful for this group to figure out is:
1.  What articles would be the best candidates to start off with?  From a
technical perspective, it'd be really handy to have a representative sample
of traffic characteristics (e.g. high traffic and low traffic articles),
since caching is one of the big areas of performance hit.
2. If we need to start weeding out articles to get the total count down,
what order should we go in?

Please leave your thoughts on the talk page, and/or flesh out the portions
of the main article that still need love (that page in particular needs some
help).

Thanks!
Rob
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Upcoming Changes to the User Interface

2010-05-08 Thread James Alexander
I know this was discussed a little while ago but do we have anything set up
in the way of global notices etc? Obviously a large portion of our userbase
(especially readers) don't see the mailing lists and we probably want to
warn them and give them some subtle pokes to learn about some of the new
features BEFORE the switch is made.

James Alexander
james.alexan...@rochester.edu
jameso...@gmail.com
100 gmail invites and no one to give them to :( let me know if you want one
:)



On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 Everyone,

 As many of you already know, the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience
 team has been running a beta program focused on improving the user
 interface for over six months now. More details may be found here
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Usability_Initiative
 [a], but our main goal has been to reduce the barriers to participation
 in Wikipedia by making it easier for new contributors to edit.

 Since the start of the program, over 635,000 users across all Wikimedia
 projects have participated in this beta program - testing and providing
 feedback on the new interface. Roughly 80% of the test users who tried
 the beta are still using it (view details
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey [b]). On the
 English Wikipedia, almost 270,000 users have tried the test interface
 and about 84% of those users continue to use it. On April 5, the beta
 features became the default experience for users of Wikimedia Commons, a
 wiki similar to Wikipedia that hosts the millions of free image and
 media files within our projects. The summary of feedback from Commons
 users may be found here
 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/04/16/a-quick-update-on-vector-acceptance-by-commons-users/
 
 [c]. The WMF blog
 
 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/25/wikimedia-gets-ready-for-some-big-changes/
 
 [d] and the tech blog
 http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/the-change-in-interface-is-coming/
 [e] also provide more information on this project.

 This new user interface will become the default for users of the English
 Wikipedia during the second week of May. We are currently scheduled to
 make the switch at 5:00am UTC on May 13. Once we make the switch, all
 users will begin to see the new features [1]. These features include an
 enhanced toolbar, a new skin (which we named 'Vector'), and a number of
 other features we're very excited about (FAQs may be found here
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
 [f]).
 If you prefer not to make the change, there will be 'Take me back' link
 to restore the original features. Those who would like to experience the
 new interface sooner may do so via the 'Try Beta' link at the top of the
 page.

 We understand that the English Wikipedia relies heavily on custom user
 scripts and site-specific JavaScript. Information on how to test gadgets
 is included in the FAQs
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
 page.
 If you encounter issues using the new skin, please share your feedback
 [
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
 
 [g].

 We're looking forward to rolling out the new features next week. In the
 meantime, if you have any questions/comments, please share them here
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback [h] --
 we're trying to consolidate feedback as much as we can.

 Howie

 Wikimedia Usability Experience Team

 [1] Users that have opted out of the beta will still get the new
 features.  We apologize in advance for this inconvenience, but these
 users may restore their features via the Take Me Back link.
 [a] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Usability_Initiative
 [b] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey
 [c]

 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/04/16/a-quick-update-on-vector-acceptance-by-commons-users/
 [d]

 http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/25/wikimedia-gets-ready-for-some-big-changes/
 [e]
 http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/03/the-change-in-interface-is-coming/
 [f]
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
 [g]
 [
 http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:What%27s_new,_questions_and_answers
 [h] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback
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Re: [WikiEN-l] Upcoming Changes to the User Interface

2010-05-08 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 9:01 PM, James Alexander jameso...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know this was discussed a little while ago but do we have anything set up
 in the way of global notices etc? Obviously a large portion of our userbase
 (especially readers) don't see the mailing lists and we probably want to
 warn them and give them some subtle pokes to learn about some of the new
 features BEFORE the switch is made.

 James Alexander

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Upcoming Changes to the User Interface

2010-05-08 Thread AGK
I want the vector skin but not the new toolbar. (I prefer to do my
wikimarkup by hand.) Is there a way to use the new interface but the
old edit box?

AGK

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Upcoming Changes to the User Interface

2010-05-08 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:34 AM, AGK wiki...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I want the vector skin but not the new toolbar. (I prefer to do my
 wikimarkup by hand.) Is there a way to use the new interface but the
 old edit box?


Everything should be customizable from Special:Preferences.  See
Editing = Beta features.

-- 
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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