Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this a trademark violation?

2013-02-09 Thread Richard Symonds
I used to work for cha cha... Or at least, I trained their staff at my old
job. They're a text message question answering service based in the us but
using Philippine staff.
On Feb 8, 2013 1:48 PM, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote:

 I just ran into this Twitter account:

 https://twitter.com/Wikipedia411

 It has Wikipedia as part of its username/URL, and uses
 Wikipedia.org as its account name (displayed at the top of its
 tweets). However, the description on its account page says Facts
 brought to you daily. Not affiliated with Wikipedia, aggregate
 content generator.

 Where copyright is concerned, it would probably be in violation of
 the license of Wikipedia if it used more than fair-use amounts of
 Wikipedia text, since there's reference to credits or license, but if
 they just paraphrase facts derived from Wikipedia (as they seem to be
 doing, and just about the only way to get anything from Wikipedia
 into 140 characters anyway) they're probably in the clear there since
 facts are not copyrightable (only the expression of them).

 However, it is trademark law they are most clearly afoul of; despite
 their disclaimer, they're using an account name that seems to imply
 that they represent Wikipedia (you have to pull up their profile page
 to find out they're not official, so lots of people who see retweeted
 tweets from them will think they're coming from Wikipedia), and they
 also use Wikipedia's logo as their icon.

 While most of their tweets have facts that presumably came from
 Wikipedia, the stream is peppered with tweets with teaser text and
 a link, which when followed doesn't go to Wikipedia but to some site
 called ChaCha (the link destination, as usual on Twitter, is
 obfuscated by the use of link-shorteners). That site has the typical
 annoying style of many modern websites of presenting its content in
 slideshow style with bite-size chunks of content that are 1 of 10
 and you have to keep following Next links to get to the rest of the
 feature, and if you don't use AdBlock Plus they're all surrounded by
 annoying ads, some of which blast sound at you, and try to spawn
 popups and the like.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this a trademark violation?

2013-02-09 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:55:33 -0700 (MST), Fred Bauder wrote:

 Clearly, it is.

So is anybody going to do anything about it? Should Wikimedia Legal 
be notified?


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Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this a trademark violation?

2013-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 8 February 2013 13:47, Daniel R. Tobias d...@tobias.name wrote:

 I just ran into this Twitter account:
 https://twitter.com/Wikipedia411
 However, it is trademark law they are most clearly afoul of; despite


I understand WMF is on the case :-)


- d.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this a trademark violation?

2013-02-09 Thread Fred Bauder
 On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 06:55:33 -0700 (MST), Fred Bauder wrote:

 Clearly, it is.

 So is anybody going to do anything about it? Should Wikimedia Legal
 be notified?

I cc'd them earlier, but here is another.

Fred


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